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Political Prosecutions: The Nazi Tactic Used By Democrats

Posted on 01/04/2004 8:42:37 AM PST by Doctor Raoul

Use of the analogy to the Nazis in the title is justified. What made Hitler and his goons so powerful in Germany was that they saw no separation between their political position and their government office. Their loyalty to their political party was greater than their loyallty to the country, so they felt that using the power of their government position for political, even personal goals, was justified.

To the Nazis, use of the power of their government office was just the same as using the power of their political office. In other words, if you needed a hotel sold to the Nazi Party for a conference center, you could either use your political resources, i.e., send the Brown Shirts to intimidate the owners, or you could use the power of the government office to have the owners jailed.

In the Tripp indictment and the Limbaugh investigation, the Democrats betray their Nazi tendancies when it comes to seeing their elected office as an acceptable tool for settling political scores.

Just to remind everyone of a parallel to the current Rush Limbaugh "investigation", the Linda Tripp indictment.

Long after it served any purpose but political revenge, the Democrat prosecutor indicited Linda Tripp in Maryland on wiretapping charges. Two things make it obvious that it was a political prosecution, the strength of the case and who called for the indicitment. Both of which the media gave very little coverage.

First of all, the law had a loophole where you had to be aware of the law to violate it. And the conversations in question took place with Lewinsky being in either DC or Virginia, NOT Maryland.

Second, a county Democrat Club and some hotdog with a White House connection encouraged their fellow Democrat to bring charges. Politicians wanting people in jail, regardless of the facts.

Maybe in their blind rage, they hoped to be successful, but if nothing else, it was another chance to smear Tripp with any manner of charges, disrupt her life, cause her fear and to drain her finances. All of which the Democrats could do at no risk to themselves.

And now comes the Palm Beach Democrat prosecutor. Note that the media gives very little coverage to what doctors were "raided". I'm not defending Rush with the following statements, I'm pointing out that the Democrats had a weak case like they did with the Tripp indictment. Two doctors were from the SAME practice and treated Limbaugh for the SAME problem. Doctor shopping here? I don't think so.

The other two doctors, well one treated him for failing hearing and the other cured it. When most people hear "Doctor Shopping", they take it to mean that you'd be seeing multiple doctors with only the intent of getting more prescription drugs and that the doctors would be unaware of the others. In this case, the patient had multiple doctors treating multiple problems and at least the doctors in the same practice could reasonably be expected to know of each other, likewise with the pair of doctors who treated the ear problem. "Doctor Shopping" charges only work if you make a big assumption, THE DOCTORS WERE IN ON IT. And I don't remember any Democrat prosecutor mentioning that. Why, because the doctors who go after him publically and he doesn't want the weak case publicized.

Look at the current crop of Democrat candiates. Their rhetoric is full of conclusions that are not based on evidence. It's one thing to do that in an election, it's another to do it where we all look for justice and protection. It's been said, "Never Trust A Democrat With Your National Security". It's becoming clear that "Never Trust A Democrat With Your Civil Rights" is not an unfair statement.


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To: marty60
. I have mentioned here that the Dumocrats are Fascists at their black hearts.

Every definition of "fascist" includes an element that states only one view is allowed and others are ruthlessly crushed.

Look at the Democrat boycott attempted against Sean Hannity. Look at claim that Ed Anser said, "Your boy Hannity's next." And note that they want a "Libera; Talk Radio Network". Not a talk network that has liberals. They demand only liberals.

Only one opinion and others are silenced. Fits the element of the definition of "Fascist" to a "T".

21 posted on 01/04/2004 9:49:15 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Almost all the Democrats that I know consider the entire impeachment of Clinton to be just a Political Prosecution.

Assumes facts not in evidence, as I've hear said on Court TV.

If Bill Clinton murdered Paula Jones to prevent her from bringing a civil suit, would you still have the gaul to make that statement?

OK, so Bill Clinton didn't murder Paula Jones, but he lied to prevent her from bringing a civil suit. That's OK.

And if you say the case has no merit, that's for the JUDGE, not Clinton, to decide. And I have $800,000 of Hillary's fortune that says that the case had merit. That's why they wouldn't risk an appeal.

22 posted on 01/04/2004 9:53:50 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: jraven
Was this REALLY written by a Republican?

A conservative. Which kind of makes a lot of your points come undone.

23 posted on 01/04/2004 9:56:13 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Doug Loss
Individual Democrats may be patriotic, but their party as a whole can't be reasonably characterized as such.

It's time for those Democrats to take back their party from the thugs.

24 posted on 01/04/2004 9:57:31 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: marty60
You need to wake up and look at the facts. If you do just a rudimentary study of how the Nazi's gained power, the facts support the conclusion.

Oh, please.

These same kindergarden attempts at 'reasoning' are made in equal measure over at DU in regards to Republicans being Nazis, exhibiting the same tendencies, the same lust for power, blahblahblahblah....

Democrats and Republicans are simply not Nazi's, and to maintain otherwise is simply rabid Know-Nothingism that defames this website.

25 posted on 01/04/2004 9:59:17 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I think it is fair to say this characteristic is common in every instance where ideology supplants law
26 posted on 01/04/2004 10:01:43 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Death before dhimmi.)
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To: marty60
"The Dumocrats are Fascists at their black hearts."

Absolutely true. No exaggeration at all.

An enlightened "tolerant" Democratic hard-line good "friend" of mine still maintains John Ashcroft is "too Christian" to be Attorney General. Now substitute any other word for "Christian" and who and what have you got?

27 posted on 01/04/2004 10:02:56 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Pahuanui
Democrats and Republicans are simply not Nazi's, and to maintain otherwise is simply rabid.

I'd so "Oh please" but I don't want to sound condescending.

Prove that the Tripp and Limbaugh prosecutions are NOT politically motivated OR prove the Nazis did not engage in political prosecutions.

In two and a half years of protesting on Saturdays at the White House, it was typical for some Fascist Liberal supporter of Clinton to be displeased with our protest to go up to the first uniformed officer they could find and say, "Make them stop." Happened all the time. It was a frequent reaction by the liberals. They just asumed that since their guy was "in charge" what not use the police to stop free speech they didn't like. A frequent response by the officers was to at least smile, if not outright laugh. Amd they'd have a hell of a timeexplaining to those "tolerent" liberals that free speech was not against the LAW.

28 posted on 01/04/2004 10:12:10 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Pahuanui
Democrats and Republicans are simply not Nazi's, and to maintain otherwise is simply rabid.

I'd so "Oh please" but I don't want to sound condescending.

Prove that the Tripp and Limbaugh prosecutions are NOT politically motivated OR prove the Nazis did not engage in political prosecutions.

In two and a half years of protesting on Saturdays at the White House, it was typical for some Fascist Liberal supporter of Clinton to be displeased with our protest to go up to the first uniformed officer they could find and say, "Make them stop." Happened all the time. It was a frequent reaction by the liberals. They just asumed that since their guy was "in charge" what not use the police to stop free speech they didn't like. A frequent response by the officers was to at least smile, if not outright laugh. Amd they'd have a hell of a timeexplaining to those "tolerent" liberals that free speech was not against the LAW.

29 posted on 01/04/2004 10:12:38 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Pahuanui
"Democrats and Republicans are simply not Nazi's..."

The evidence strongly suggests the Democrats are worse. This party has evolved into an ideological cancer and mere stealth anti-American organization.

30 posted on 01/04/2004 10:14:23 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I think it is fair to say this characteristic is common in every instance where ideology supplants law.

That does not change the fact that liberals revert to their Nazi tendencies at the slightest whim.

If there is another example of another group, that's a topic for it's own thread.

31 posted on 01/04/2004 10:15:33 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (How can they call it a "Peace March" when they unconditionally support those who kill our soldiers?)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.

J


32 posted on 01/04/2004 10:29:29 AM PST by J. L. Chamberlain
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To: Doctor Raoul
I'd so "Oh please" but I don't want to sound condescending.

Prove that the Tripp and Limbaugh prosecutions are NOT politically motivated OR prove the Nazis did not engage in political prosecutions.

It is impossible to prove a negative, and flies in the face of the rules of logic, so your request must remain unaddressed.

In two and a half years of protesting on Saturdays at the White House, it was typical for some Fascist Liberal supporter of Clinton to be displeased with our protest to go up to the first uniformed officer they could find and say, "Make them stop." Happened all the time. It was a frequent reaction by the liberals. They just asumed that since their guy was "in charge" what not use the police to stop free speech they didn't like. A frequent response by the officers was to at least smile, if not outright laugh. Amd they'd have a hell of a timeexplaining to those "tolerent" liberals that free speech was not against the LAW.

This was about Democrats, not necessarily liberals. There are plenty of liberal Republicans, in case that escaped your notice.

The problem is that you are extrapolating the behavior of a very limited subset of a population onto the whole, and I see no evidence or data that would justify this.

33 posted on 01/04/2004 10:39:31 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: Doctor Raoul
BTTT!
34 posted on 01/04/2004 11:11:05 AM PST by The Mayor (Those who love and serve God on earth will feel at home in heaven.)
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To: Pahuanui
"The problem is that you are extrapolating the behavior of a limited subset of a population into a whole..."

The real problem is that this limited subset are the one's who are in various levels of power at this time...be they Republicans of Democrats.

They deserve the label. A pox on all of them.

35 posted on 01/04/2004 2:05:05 PM PST by the blood of tyrants
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To: F16Fighter
And to the Left, Colin Powell isn't "Black enough". Conileeza Rice isn't "Black or Female" enough. Judges nominated for office by the Bush administration aren't "Liberal" enough. Estrada isn't "Hispanic" enough.

The Demoncrat leadership is an incipient and embryonic Fourth Reich, in itself. Just as the NAZI's used hatred and marginalization of those who opposed them, so too do the Left use the same tactics to bludgeon Conservatives and even those within their own party who disagree with them.

The Left which was taught by the Chomsky's and Davis's of the world have gained power in the Demoncrat party and are cruising down the highway to Hell, little Red Books in hand.

36 posted on 01/04/2004 2:19:28 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: Thumper1960
"The Demoncrat leadership is an incipient and embryonic Fourth Reich, in itself. Just as the NAZI's used hatred and marginalization of those who opposed them, so too do the Left use the same tactics to bludgeon Conservatives and even those within their own party who disagree with them."

Spot on unexaggerated assessment of the new Democratic Party. How can any Democrat who's intellectually honest possibly refute any of this with a straight face??

For "truth in advertising"'s sake, The Donkey icon ought to be replaced by a snake-eyed, forked-tongue Demon.

37 posted on 01/04/2004 4:09:15 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Pahuanui
It is impossible to prove a negative

Tripe. Cliche. Read a little book called How We Know What Isn't So.

38 posted on 01/04/2004 6:37:48 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand
It is impossible to prove a negative

Tripe. Cliche. Read a little book called How We Know What Isn't So.

No, what's tripe is the assertion that that book, which I've read, has anything at all to do with the formal rules of logic, which were established manifold centuries ago and are still valid. It doesn't.

Proving a negative is impossible, by its very nature.

You are mixing apples and oranges.

39 posted on 01/04/2004 7:28:18 PM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: marty60
That's why Dums can not get control, they are foaming at the mouth with the thought of using the patriot act to go after Americans.

Then maybe we shouldn't have passed Patriot and Patriot II, huh?

40 posted on 01/04/2004 7:32:15 PM PST by Lazamataz (G-d gave us free will. The government took it away.)
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