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Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Rogers? Has anyone ever heard of this before?
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Posted on 01/24/2004 10:05:02 PM PST by ezo4

Quite a few of us grew up with Captain Kangaroo. We knew nothing of his background, only that his show was both entertaining and educational. As kids we looked forward to it with anticipation.

Captain Kangaroo turned 76 recently, which is odd because he's never looked a day under 76 (dob: 6/27/27). This brings to mind the following story.

Some people have been offended that the actor Lee Marvin is buried in a grave along side 3 and 4 star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC) - nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer.

In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces, often in rear-echelon posts where they were carefully protected only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award....the Medal of Honor.

If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery. Dialog from the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson with Lee Marvin as guest: "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima...and during the course of action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded." "Yeah, yeah...I got shot square in the ass and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi...bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys gettin' shot hauling you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew...we both got the Cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. The dumb bastard actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by and mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gun fire so he could get his men to safety. He did that on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life. That sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, "Where'd they get you Lee?" "Well, Bob...if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse?"

Johnny, I'm not lying...Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew... The sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan...You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo.

On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But, Mr. Rogers was a US Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long sleeve sweater on his show to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. A master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat.

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never again harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life. He hid the tattoos and his past life away and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm.

America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did, they quietly go about their day to day lives doing what they do best. Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.


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1 posted on 01/24/2004 10:05:03 PM PST by ezo4
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To: ezoeni
I had heard this before, but it is great to hear it again.

May they rest in peace.
2 posted on 01/24/2004 10:10:11 PM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: ezoeni
America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did, they quietly go about their day to day lives doing what they do best.

Thanks for the post. God Bless Those Who Risked All. Duty, Honor, Country...

3 posted on 01/24/2004 10:11:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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To: ezoeni
Urban Legend, alas. Consult snopes.com.
4 posted on 01/24/2004 10:12:04 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: ezoeni
How do we find out if this is true? Urban legend?
5 posted on 01/24/2004 10:12:40 PM PST by woofie
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To: JennysCool
Her ya go:

http://www.snopes.com/military/keeshan.htm
6 posted on 01/24/2004 10:12:46 PM PST by annyokie (Wesley Clark: Howard Dean with medals!)
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To: texasflower; All
Claim: Lee Marvin, actor, and Bob Keeshan, television's "Captain Kangaroo," fought together at the battle for Iwo Jima. Status: False.

FALSE INFORMATION - SEE Snopes.com

Lee Marvin did enlist in the U.S. Marines, saw action as Private First Class in the Pacific during World War II, and was wounded (in the buttocks) by fire which severed his sciatic nerve. However, this injury occurred during the battle for Saipan in June 1944, not the battle for Iwo Jima, which took place several months later, in February 1945. (Marvin also did receive a Purple Heart, and he is indeed buried at Arlington National Cemetery.)

Bob Keeshan, later famous as television's "Captain Kangaroo," also enlisted in the U.S. Marines, but too late to see any action during World War II. Keeshan was born on 27 June 1927 and enlisted two weeks before his 18th birthday, months too late to have taken part in the fighting at Iwo Jima. A 1997 interview with Keeshan noted that he "later enlisted in the U.S. Marines but saw no combat" because, as Keeshan said, he signed up "just before we dropped the atom bomb."

In 2003 someone thought to throw Mr. Rogers into the mix by add the following bit to the existing e-mail about Lee Marvin and Bob Keeshan:

On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long sleeve sweater to cover the many tattoo's on his forearm and biceps. A master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat. He hid that away and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm. America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did, they quietly go about their day to day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy. Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst. Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.

Numerous rumors about children's host Mr. Rogers having a violent or criminal past have been bandied about for years, but there is nothing to any of them. As our Mr. Rogers page explains, not only did Fred Rogers never serve in the military, there are no gaps in his career when he could conceivably have served in the military. Moreover, Fred Rogers was born in 1928 and was therefore far too old for an active combat position in the Vietnam War.
7 posted on 01/24/2004 10:13:13 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: ezoeni; All
Another complete fabrication, courtesy of the internet. See Snopes.com for the debunking of this story. Keeshan did join the military in 1945, but did not see any action.
8 posted on 01/24/2004 10:13:24 PM PST by egarvue (Martin Sheen is not my president...)
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To: annyokie
Sheesh: Her= Here. No talking while posting.
9 posted on 01/24/2004 10:13:33 PM PST by annyokie (Wesley Clark: Howard Dean with medals!)
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To: ezoeni
I think the Capt. Kangaroo story has been debunked at Snopes as well as Mr. Rogers.
10 posted on 01/24/2004 10:13:46 PM PST by Coroner
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To: ezoeni
http://www.snopes.com/military/keeshan.htm
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp
11 posted on 01/24/2004 10:13:53 PM PST by Jeanie
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To: annyokie
Beat me to it. We can still respect Marvin and Keeshan for being Marines.
12 posted on 01/24/2004 10:14:18 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Coroner
Im pretty sure Marvin was a Marine
13 posted on 01/24/2004 10:14:38 PM PST by woofie
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To: woofie
I think you are correct!!
14 posted on 01/24/2004 10:19:17 PM PST by Coroner
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To: snippy_about_it
The only thing I remember about Captain Kangaroo is when he forgot to turn off his microphone and made the statement, "Well I guess that takes care of the little bastards another day", at the end of one of his shows.

But back to the guys you never expect subject, when, "To Hell and Back", first came out, I asked my father why they let a little wimpy actor like that play the part of a military hero.
15 posted on 01/24/2004 10:20:58 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Volunteer for EOD and you will never have to worry about getting wounded.)
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16 posted on 01/24/2004 10:23:10 PM PST by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
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To: woofie; Coroner; texasflower; NormsRevenge; All
Lee Marvin

Turn on sound:

http://www.geocities.com/rare-song-site/marvin.ram
17 posted on 01/24/2004 10:29:22 PM PST by Lucy Lake
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To: U S Army EOD
The only thing I remember about Captain Kangaroo is when he forgot to turn off his microphone and made the statement, "Well I guess that takes care of the little bastards another day", at the end of one of his shows.

Never happened. Another urban legend.

18 posted on 01/24/2004 10:29:23 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Sloth
Oooh Nooo, and I have believe that all my life.

Well back to reality, no it isn't hard for me to picture Captian Kangaroo as a Marine.
19 posted on 01/24/2004 10:34:16 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Volunteer for EOD and you will never have to worry about getting wounded.)
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To: U S Army EOD
The only thing I remember about Captain Kangaroo is when he forgot to turn off his microphone and made the statement, "Well I guess that takes care of the little bastards another day", at the end of one of his shows.

Wrong guy. The one who did that ran the Buster Brown show "I'm Buster Brown. I live in a shoe. That's my dog Tighe. Look for him in there, too." The same one who worked with Froggie, "Plunk your magic twanger, Froggie."

20 posted on 01/24/2004 10:46:36 PM PST by Marylander
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