Posted on 01/31/2004 7:07:00 AM PST by billorites
Pray for W and The Truth
Agreed. But they aren't equivalent either.
Assuming that is correct, which, given your record, is suspect, why did he join the TANG?
Bush 'Desertion' Charge Debunked
NewsMax | 1/24/04 | Limbacher
Did President Bush "desert" the military, as radical filmmaker Michael Moore insists he did?
Presidential candidate Gen. Wesley Clark suggested during New Hampshire's presidential debate Thursday night that the facts of whether Bush ran out on his National Guard unit in 1972 and 1973 are in dispute.
But in the months before the 2000 presidential election, the New York Times pretty much demolished this Democratic Party urban legend, a myth that first surfaced in its sister paper, the Boston Globe.
"For a full year, there is no record that Bush showed up for the periodic drills required of part-time guardsmen," the Globe insisted in May 2000, in a report Mr. Moore currently cites on his web site to rebut ABC newsman Peter Jennings' debate challenge to Clark that the story is "unsupported by the facts."
"I don't know whether [Moore's desertion charge] is supported by the facts or not," Clark replied "I've never looked at it."
The Times did, however, look at it, and found that Bush had indeed served during the part of the time the Globe had him AWOL - and later made up whatever time he missed after requesting permission for the postponement.
In July 2000 the Times noted that Bush's chief accuser in the Globe report, retired Gen. William Turnipseed, had begun to back way from his story that Bush never appeared for service during the time in question.
"In a recent interview," said the Times, "[Turnipseed] took a tiny step back, saying, 'I don't think he did, but I wouldn't stake my life on it." In fact, military records obtained by the Times showed that Turnipseed was wrong and that the Globe had flubbed the story.
"A review by The Times showed that after a seven-month gap, he appeared for duty in late November 1972 at least through July 1973," the paper noted on Nov. 3, 2000.
The Times explained:
"On Sept. 5, 1972, Mr. Bush asked his Texas Air National Guard superiors for assignment to the 187th Tactical Recon Group in Montgomery [Alabama] 'for the months of September, October and November,'" so Bush could manage the Senate campaign of Republican Winton Blount.
"Capt. Kenneth K. Lott, chief of the personnel branch of the 187th Tactical Recon Group, told the Texas commanders that training in September had already occurred but that more training was scheduled for Oct. 7 and 8 and Nov. 4 and 5."
After the Bush AWOL story had percolated for months, Col. Turnipseed finally remembered another glitch in his story: the fact that National Guard regulations allowed Guard members to miss duty as long as it was made up within the same quarter.
And, in fact - according to the Times - that's what Bush did.
"A document in Mr. Bush's military records," the paper said, "showed credit for four days of duty ending Nov. 29 and for eight days ending Dec. 14, 1972, and, after he moved back to Houston, on dates in January, April and May."
The paper found corroboration for the document, noting, "The May dates correlated with orders sent to Mr. Bush at his Houston apartment on April 23, 1973, in which Sgt. Billy B. Lamar told Mr. Bush to report for active duty on May 1-3 and May 8-10."
Yet another document obtained by the Times blew the Bush AWOL story out of the water.
It showed that Mr. Bush served at various times from May 29, 1973, through July 30, 1973 - "a period of time questioned by The Globe," the Times sheepishly admitted.
http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/000007.html
His very special treatment included instant admission to flight training and an extraordinary commission as a second lieutenant.
I'd like to know what is so "extraordinary" about a commission as a second lieutenant. I believe that rank is the lowest officer rank in the Air Force. Most flyers are given an officer's rank, so starting Mr. Bush at that rank shouldn't be extraordinary at all.
But in May 1972, only 22 months after he completed pilot training, he stopped flying.
Many people stopped flying at that time. The military had more pilots than they could use, and getting time in the planes was difficult. Many pilots were showing up at the air field at five in the morning hoping to get a plane. If they weren't at the very top of their class, they often didn't get flying time. Many opted to quit being pilots and serve out the rest of their commitments in other ways.
In fact, there is considerable evidence that Mr. Bush skipped all duty for a full year, until April 1973.
As previous posters have already shown, this statement simply isn't true. The writer is either being dishonest or hasn't done his homework.
WFTR
Bill
George Bush once remarked in a private conversation about his military service and Viet Nam that when he was sitting at the end of the runway at Ellington Field firing that single jet engine, he didn't feel like he had gotten out of anything.
As a matter of fact, during his stint two fellow pilots were killed in accidents.
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