Posted on 02/06/2004 1:27:31 AM PST by ovrtaxt
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:13:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Growing frustration over President Bush's immigration plan and lack of fiscal discipline came to a head behind closed doors at last weekend's Republican retreat in Philadelphia.
House lawmakers, stunned by the intensity of their constituents' displeasure at some of Mr. Bush's key domestic policies, gave his political strategist Karl Rove an earful behind closed doors.
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Those of you who think there is no place for criticism of Bush here, remember that many of these conservatives did vote against the issues we're now protesting, and were outvoted. It's completely reasonable to expect them to voice their displeasure with the man who called on Congress to pass this legislation and later signed it into law.
As far as "presenting a united front", how many of you credited the Democrats with doing the same during the Clinton years? As I recall, most folks here criticized them as cowards for blindly supporting Clinton instead of having some spine. Now, apparently, Republicans with spines are cowards in some of your minds.
You can't make stuff like this up.
No matter how many times you scream it, it is not amnesty. Amnesty means citizenship. But you just keep on ranting your simplistic hyperbole, that's all you have.
BTW, dennis, is the native born Anerican guy named Smith who is charged with killing the 11 year old girl in Florida a lesser criminal to you than the person washing dishes for a living but crossed the border illegally.
Thank you.
I understand that your strategy is to silence all dissent in this election cycle, but that strategy never set well with Americans before and it isn't settin' well now.
Talk about your elephant in the livingroom.
Wow an ethnic restaurant serving food and trying to make an honest living is a big evil to you.
Well sheesh I guess a hundred years ago you would be on a rampage to close Jewish delicatessens, Italian restaurants, and Irish pubs in New York City.
By definition, amnesty does not mean citizenship. It means "the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals". The standard you're applying is overly narrow.
Actually under Bush's proposal they would have to pay a fine and there is no instant citizenship. They are not getting off scot free for the crime of washing dishes, cleaning toilets, and making beds.
Tancredo does a good job of representing his constituents' voice in Congress. However, you must admit that he gets a lot of face time on the networks talking about this issue. That's all well and good, but it still doesn't negate that he broke the confidence of the retreat.
I also criticize the others who broke confidence. In my opinion, they are even worse in that they did so anonymously.
LOL!!! Because you say so?? You are so dumb to not realize that the right to legally live in America is so precious. Not just American citizenship. Just the legal sanction to live and work here is very highly valued. Just ask an illegal immigrant.
IOW Just to legalize their residency is amnesty (and eventual citizenship if they wish to apply) is flouting the will of the American people.
You and I both know this is akin to a pardon. Illegals who entered the country came with the expectation of being deported if caught.
They are not getting off scot free for the crime of washing dishes, cleaning toilets, and making beds.
Actually, the crime is avoiding the legal process for entering our country. Perhaps this is why you're a bit confused on the issue.
2) Let the market decide. But give AMERICANS a level playing field. Every time I apply for a job I have to provide proof of eligibility to work in the U.S.A. As for dishwashing, I've done restaurant work, cleaned bathrooms, did lawn work. All without being forced to do so at gunpoint and not at $20 p.h. Minimum wage, baby. Less than $2 p.h. back then.
3) Check.
4) You'll remember that the 9/11 hijackers were able to exploit the illegal immigrant industry in Northern Virginia to get their fake drivers licenses. It's not washing dishes that's criminal, it's violating our borders and all that follows.
5) We deported over a million illegals with Operation Wetback in the Fifties. All it takes is political will to get the job done. Make it uncomfortable for illegals to be here and you won't have to deport them all, many will leave on their own.
Getting amnesty would eliminate the major hassles in their life, allow them to bring family here with new babies being American citizens, would get them driver's licenses, would get them Social Security.
Yawn. It's really a bit early for that much disingenuousness. I think you've been around these threads long enough to have seen about a dozen different proposals spelled out in detail, all with the same core message - enforce the law. Pick any one of them, including those on this thread. They're all better than Bush's craven pandering.
please spell out the logistics and costs of rounding up 8,000,000 people.
You forgot to mention machine-gunning Mexican children at the border. You surrenderists really need to refresh your material. As you've read hundreds of times on these threads, if we start enforcing the law, especially employment law, a lot of these folks will deport themselves. But even if they don't, and we have to "round up" illegals, your 8-million-people bogeyman isn't such a big deal. 2,200 or so INS agents arresting a mere two illegals each per day, yields 8 million arrests in four years. Which translates to a mere twenty buses arriving at 5 or so border crossings per day.
If this nation really cannot manage that, if we are really now filled with so many hand-wringers like you, then stick a fork in us, we're through.
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