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GOP slams Bush policies at retreat
The Washington Times ^ | 2/6/04 | By Ralph Z. Hallow and James G. Lakely

Posted on 02/06/2004 1:27:31 AM PST by ovrtaxt

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:13:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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Good news. Seems our voices are being heard after all.
1 posted on 02/06/2004 1:27:32 AM PST by ovrtaxt
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Many House critics of the Bush immigration plan said privately that the proposal was created to win Mr. Bush a larger share of the Hispanic vote in November and to mollify Mexican President Vicente Fox.

What evidence do they have that he is going to gain any significant votes? Mexican socialists are never going to support the small-government, nationalistic version of the Republicans.

2 posted on 02/06/2004 1:31:24 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Support Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-lim-bin- bim-bus stop F'tang F'tang Olé Biscuitbarrel (Silly Party))
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One glaring omission in all of the self-righteous indignation. Where was the self criticism? Every spending bill the hate was passed by them. Bush just made an immigration proposal it is completely within their power to vote it down.
3 posted on 02/06/2004 1:34:35 AM PST by Texasforever
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Absolutely. Feeney and Tancredo are the few names that I have heard in the past who actually stood up to Rove on Medicare and immigration, respectively.

I understand that they are trying to defer to their President and support his agenda with a united front, but the identity of the party matters. Every spending bill originates in the House. DeLay better grow a pair quick and exhibit some true leadership.
4 posted on 02/06/2004 1:39:36 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Support Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-lim-bin- bim-bus stop F'tang F'tang Olé Biscuitbarrel (Silly Party))
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This entire congress has shown itself to be craven cowards. They pass bills that Bush signs and then blames him for making them do it. They resisted the McCain/Feingold CFR for 6 years and then when Bush takes office it is the one of the first major pieces of legislation they send to the president after Bush had already told them if they didn't want CFR then by God don't send it to me. I will guarantee many of these worms will be in line to be seen with Bush on the campaign trail. Many of them owe their reelection in 2002 to Bush. It makes me want to puke.
5 posted on 02/06/2004 1:46:49 AM PST by Texasforever
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I thought it was good the Karl Rove and Joshua Bolton received criticism. Responsible criticism isn't a sign of weakness, its a sign of strength. Only weaklings prefer sycophants to give them what they want to hear. If this results in the Administration dropping ill-advised proposals, then it will have strengthened the President immensely in time for the general election. Now let's see if they do in fact take all of this to heart over at the White House.
6 posted on 02/06/2004 1:49:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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HELLO ?!?!?

Ummmm ... who do these Congress folks think make and pass these bills???
7 posted on 02/06/2004 1:52:42 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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Ummmm ... who do these Congress folks think make and pass these bills???

IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT. HE MADE US DO IT!

8 posted on 02/06/2004 1:53:55 AM PST by Texasforever
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Where was the self criticism? Every spending bill the hate was passed by them. Bush just made an immigration proposal it is completely within their power to vote it down.

EXACTLY!

9 posted on 02/06/2004 1:53:55 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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If I were GW, I would tell these guys to piss up a rope when they come hat in hand begging for him to help them out in their reelection in 2004.
10 posted on 02/06/2004 1:56:21 AM PST by Texasforever
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self-right·eous
adj.
Piously sure of one's own righteousness; moralistic.
Exhibiting pious self-assurance: self-righteous remarks.




Voice of President Bush: "He said he didn't do it for politics [but] because that's what he believes is good for the country," Mr. Duffy said, adding that Mr. Bush drove his point home by saying, "I'm from Texas and I know this issue."

Voice of the People: House lawmakers, stunned by the intensity of their constituents' displeasure at some of Mr. Bush's key domestic policies, gave his political strategist Karl Rove an earful behind closed doors.



11 posted on 02/06/2004 1:56:45 AM PST by .30Carbine (This new conservatism stuff is one hell of a lot better than thinking)
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These people are un-flipping-believable ... they make and pass these bills and then blame Bush and Rove?

Are they really that stupid?
12 posted on 02/06/2004 1:58:26 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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tell these guys to piss up a rope

Now that's good strategery for the Republicans, and will surely end with a super-majority in the Senate.

13 posted on 02/06/2004 1:59:05 AM PST by .30Carbine (This new conservatism stuff is one hell of a lot better than thinking)
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This is what leads to the logic of some (misguided, IMO) to suggest a Dem president might be good for the country, a 'pro gridlock' stance, if you will. A lib in the WH would definitely result in a swing to the right for the Congress. But wouldn't it be better to swing right with Bush?

I'm all for it if they can pull it off. We have til Nov to convince them.

14 posted on 02/06/2004 1:59:09 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Support Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-lim-bin- bim-bus stop F'tang F'tang Olé Biscuitbarrel (Silly Party))
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The proposals for these bills are coming from the President. He alone has the bully pulpit.
15 posted on 02/06/2004 2:00:27 AM PST by .30Carbine (This new conservatism stuff is one hell of a lot better than thinking)
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This is what leads to the logic of some (misguided, IMO) to suggest a Dem president might be good for the country, a 'pro gridlock' stance, if you will.

If these idiots keep it up it won't be a democrat in the Whitehouse, it will be a democrat in the House Speaker role. It is Bush's coat tails that kept most of them in their seats in 2002.

16 posted on 02/06/2004 2:01:45 AM PST by Texasforever
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What a crook ... they make and pass the bills
17 posted on 02/06/2004 2:01:52 AM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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And you think it would bode well for the elections in November if they opposed the President on these?
18 posted on 02/06/2004 2:03:43 AM PST by .30Carbine (This new conservatism stuff is one hell of a lot better than thinking)
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If these idiots keep it up it won't be a democrat in the Whitehouse, it will be a democrat in the House Speaker role.

Quote: Let them piss up a rope!

19 posted on 02/06/2004 2:05:51 AM PST by .30Carbine (This new conservatism stuff is one hell of a lot better than thinking)
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It is Bush's coat tails that kept most of them in their seats in 2002.

And Bush was farther right in 2002. Any way, this was a closed door meeting, so I don't have a problem with the disagreement. It's good that someone is listening, finally. The fact that the article was written, that it saw the light of day, is a message to conservatives. It gives me hope that the cause isn't lost.

20 posted on 02/06/2004 2:06:46 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Support Tarquin Fin-tim-lim-bim-lim-bin- bim-bus stop F'tang F'tang Olé Biscuitbarrel (Silly Party))
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