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DNA Study Traces Ancient Ancestry Of Europeans
CNN.com ^ | 11-10-2000

Posted on 02/22/2004 5:00:24 PM PST by blam

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Four out of five men in Europe share a common male ancestor who lived as a hunter on a wild continent some 40,000 years ago, researchers say.

In a study appearing Friday in the journal Science, researchers say an analysis of a pattern found in the Y chromosome taken from 1,007 men from 25 places in Europe shows that about 80 percent of Europeans arose from the Paleolithic people who first migrated to Europe.


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KEYWORDS: ancestry; ancient; dna; europeans; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; study
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1 posted on 02/22/2004 5:00:24 PM PST by blam
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To: farmfriend
Ping.
2 posted on 02/22/2004 5:00:57 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; A.J.Armitage; abner; adam_az; AdmSmith; Alas Babylon!; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

3 posted on 02/22/2004 5:02:48 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: blam
http://www.ancestrybydna.com/
4 posted on 02/22/2004 5:04:02 PM PST by cyborg
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To: blam
I think I go back to Aphrodite and Cleopatra....
If not, I do not want to know.... LOL
5 posted on 02/22/2004 5:04:03 PM PST by buffyt (We must never use the UN as a substitute for clear and resolute US policy. B. Goldwater)
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To: blam
Four out of five men in Europe share a common male ancestor

Now that is what I call the father of a country. ;-)

6 posted on 02/22/2004 5:04:29 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: blam
When the glaciers melted, about 16,000 years ago, the Paleolithic tribes resettled the rest of Europe....

George Bush's fault, early globull warming...
7 posted on 02/22/2004 5:05:09 PM PST by buffyt (We must never use the UN as a substitute for clear and resolute US policy. B. Goldwater)
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To: buffyt
What did Dubya know and when did he know it?
8 posted on 02/22/2004 5:05:57 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: blam
About 8,000 years ago, said Underhill, a more advanced people, the Neolithic, migrated to Europe from the Middle East, bringing with them a new Y chromosome pattern and a new way of life: agriculture. About 20 percent of Europeans now have the Y chromosome pattern from this migration, he said.

I wonder if these are the Indo-Europeans. If so, they imposed their language on the indigenous peoples. Perhaps everyone in Europe spoke an early version of Basque prior to that.

9 posted on 02/22/2004 5:06:05 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: blam
It was'nt me. I never even met the young lady.
10 posted on 02/22/2004 5:07:14 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: Unam Sanctam
My thought exactly. Does anyone know what the distribution of the 20% gene is?
11 posted on 02/22/2004 5:09:56 PM PST by maro
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To: buffyt
As long as I'm not related to Effing Kerry or Al Sharpton I'm fine.
12 posted on 02/22/2004 5:18:30 PM PST by cyborg
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To: maro

Does anyone know what the distribution of the 20% gene is?

The last paragraph in the article attributes the 20% to a secondary migration from the Middle East.

I'm curious to learn if this type of DNA testing has been applied to testing the ''out of Africa'' theory.

13 posted on 02/22/2004 5:18:33 PM PST by elli1
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To: blam
Four out of five men in Europe share a common male ancestor who lived as a hunter on a wild continent some 40,000 years ago, researchers say.

Oh?

Granting that the law of averages is on their side, (hunter being the most common male occupation in a hunter/gather society) there is still no way that they can state his occupation with such certainty.

Maybe he was a shaman and while all the hunter were out he was making woo-woo with the women folks.

Speculation in science is fine. When stated as fact, not fine.

Still all in all a very interesting finding. I wonder where the other 20% came from.

14 posted on 02/22/2004 5:20:37 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Yes, I know that I am overly critical and overly analytical)
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To: Unam Sanctam
" Perhaps everyone in Europe spoke an early version of Basque prior to that."

That's my suspicions too.

15 posted on 02/22/2004 5:23:50 PM PST by blam
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To: elli1
What I mean is, is there a north/south bias in the 20% gene, or an east/west bias, or some other distributional pattern that could be connected to a historical hypothesis? My own guess is that the 20% gene is spread very evenly, because the Middle Easterners became Indo-Europeans in the Ukraine staging area, and were already a hybrid group when they started conquering Europe. But I welcome anyone with facts.
16 posted on 02/22/2004 5:24:16 PM PST by maro
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To: blam
Four out of five men in Europe share a common male ancestor. . . .

Five out of five men on Earth share two common male ancestors, Noah and, before him, Adam.

17 posted on 02/22/2004 5:27:06 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Original sinner.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
""I wonder where the other 20% came from."

It may be the 20% mentioned below.

"About 8,000 years ago, said Underhill, a more advanced people, the Neolithic, migrated to Europe from the Middle East, bringing with them a new Y chromosome pattern and a new way of life: agriculture. About 20 percent of Europeans now have the Y chromosome pattern from this migration, he said.

18 posted on 02/22/2004 5:29:56 PM PST by blam
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To: maro

This map was originally published in JP Malloy and Victor Mair's excellent book, The Tarim Mummies

19 posted on 02/22/2004 5:37:14 PM PST by blam
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To: elli1
"I'm curious to learn if this type of DNA testing has been applied to testing the ''out of Africa'' theory."

Gene Study Identifies Five Human Populations

20 posted on 02/22/2004 5:41:44 PM PST by blam
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