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AL-JAZEERA: BEHEADING A FAKE
Nw york Post ^ | 5/14/04 | Post Wire Services

Posted on 05/14/2004 12:12:42 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

May 14, 2004 -- In a bizarre twist, the anti-American TV station al-Jazeera is questioning the "authenticity" of the horrific video of American Nick Berg's beheading - suggesting it's a fake to divert attention from the Iraqi prison abuse scandal.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aljazeera; alsjizzinyourhaira; arabmedia; ccrm; nickberg; nickbergvideo; timetonukeislam
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To: Joe Hadenuf

You know, for the next 8 months untill inauguration, it's gonna be like this. There is a good chance Nick was already dead when they sawed his head off, if you look at the clock it doesn't jive. I think after they mutilated and killed him they thought on second thought it might be cool to show him beheaded.No website in the world would show a circumcised jew being castrated and left to bleed to death, but, beheading, they have shown that before.


21 posted on 05/14/2004 12:44:33 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: jwfiv
You may be right. If they cut from the back first, then the vital arties and veins would be missed until last.....prolonging his alertness.
22 posted on 05/14/2004 12:46:38 AM PDT by katz (Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.............I'm tired of being sorry.)
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To: prisoner6
I also wondered if they drugged him and that's why he didn't struggle as much as I would have thought.

About a week ago there was an article detailing an account of Pearl's last day...and it was said he fought being drugged by either spiked tea or by needle.

23 posted on 05/14/2004 12:47:01 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Joe Hadenuf
That was my first thought after vomiting. I said, "His head didn't drip blood". Looked sort of antiseptic in a murder way.
24 posted on 05/14/2004 12:51:08 AM PDT by katz (Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.............I'm tired of being sorry.)
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To: kattracks

So, are we supposed to believe that the Berg family will be burying two parts of a mannequin?

These people have GOT to stop watching "Blackhawk Down" and start getting their heads back in the real world.


25 posted on 05/14/2004 12:52:38 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: kattracks

They found Berg's dead body, is that a fake too?

I think the Jihadis realized that by murdering him, they actually showed the stark contrast between the "prison scanda" based on some naked terrorists being "humiliated" and the real brutality exercised by Al Qaeda. So now they are trying to backpedal, which is hard at this point, with a brutally murdered dead body at their feet.


26 posted on 05/14/2004 1:00:07 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: prisoner6

What I recall reading about the Pearl murder video was that the video operator missed the actual murder, so they 're-endacted" it.

The same could have happened here. Or they edited the tape, to show it in a certain order, to include their rant, etc.


27 posted on 05/14/2004 1:02:10 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: kattracks; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133927/posts
The Berg Beheading- some links
various FR links | 05-12-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy


28 posted on 05/14/2004 1:08:08 AM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: Rokurota

Why would they drug him? it would ease his pain?


29 posted on 05/14/2004 1:13:29 AM PDT by Jape
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To: kattracks

This story does not seem to be up on their English language website.


30 posted on 05/14/2004 1:13:34 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: katz

Another freeper started a thread yesterday about the fact that a minute and a half was cut out of the video during the actual beheading. This may account for much of the "lack of blood".


31 posted on 05/14/2004 1:15:26 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (06/07/04 - 1000 days since 09/11/01)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Danny Pearl was a fake too. It's one of two things, CIA or the Jews doing it to themselves to make the Muslims look bad.

On a non sarcasm note, I don't think I can handle too much more reality internet. A few months ago someone posted a link to the massacre of whites in Africa. It was enough to make you want to scream. Truly horrifying--kids and babies included in the slaughter. I hope to GOD that there is a GOD and he will handle all this in the end. Wish I could find another planet to live on in the meantime. Think I will go have a good cry now.


32 posted on 05/14/2004 1:20:26 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: katz
Gross material warning;

This did come up in conversations we had in Saudi Arabia. One of the Saudis knew the local executioner and his family. It was an interesting story. Somebody brought up about how it must be bloody. He told us that not only do they drug the subject but they also bleed them out so those in attendance aren't too disturbed by seeing much blood. Also the subject doesn't fight as they're too weak. They've been at it for generations so they know how much is enough. Descriptions of public executions do have that sort of antiseptic quality, so this is not unusual.
33 posted on 05/14/2004 1:28:20 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: prisoner6
Notice teh time stamp discrepancy. IIRC it starts out around 2:40 something, then jumps to 13:40 something while they are ranting. When the actual decapitation takes place the stamp is back at 2:something.

The animals used two different cameras, to make sure they didn't run into technical difficulties and miss their moment of 'bravery'. (IIRC, Daniel Pearle's murders had trouble figuring out how to operate a camera...???)

One camera is displaying 12 hour time, and the other camera is displaying 24 hour time. There is an approximate one hour discrepancy between the cameras which is possibly a clue that one of the rags is visiting from a different time zone. Perhaps a daylight savings time issue.

The retards aren't terribly adept with technological marvels such as cameras, clocks, showers, digital video splicing, etc. Unfortunately, the video appears all too real.

34 posted on 05/14/2004 1:35:51 AM PDT by InfraRed
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murders = murderers


35 posted on 05/14/2004 1:39:54 AM PDT by InfraRed
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To: kattracks

Have no fears the American press is ignoring this story anyway, having naked detainees and soldiers have sex is much more important.


36 posted on 05/14/2004 1:51:43 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Sadly, I can no longer tell the difference between DU and LP, except that LP may be more rampantly anti-semitic.


37 posted on 05/14/2004 1:53:52 AM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: lonevoice
Sadly, I can no longer tell the difference between DU and LP, except that LP may be more rampantly anti-semitic.

Good point. They both practically salivate over the nightmarish prospect of an eight year Kerry presidency -- and a Kerry-packed Supreme Court -- after all.

38 posted on 05/14/2004 1:56:24 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: kattracks
Al Jazeera is a bit slow on the uptake.

The day the video was released, CBS had this disclaimer on their website:

FR Thread about CBS There was no way to be certain the tape was authentic.

The fax machine from the US to the middle east must be broken.

39 posted on 05/14/2004 1:58:40 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: boxerblues

It was not a fake. Breaking the neck bone as it was depicted is how it is done, ask any hunter. I have cut off the head of many a game animal, this is consistent. It also breaks my heart to post this.


40 posted on 05/14/2004 1:59:13 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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