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SCHIAVO INVESTIGATION FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME (BY HER PARENTS)
Clearwater Police Department ^ | 05-14-04 | Clearwater Police Department

Posted on 05/14/2004 2:36:09 PM PDT by phenn

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To: T'wit

Read what I wrote, instead of reading into it. Making that statement as a declarative charge is, in fact, defamation if untrue. Making it as an opinion, or as speculation, on the other hand, is not.


41 posted on 05/14/2004 8:57:45 PM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
Making that statement as a declarative charge is, in fact, defamation if untrue. Making it as an opinion, or as speculation, on the other hand, is not.

The question, I think, is whether a reasonable person reading the statements would have reason to believe that the author had more basis for believing them to be true than he, in fact, had. In many libel actions, a person who is sued may defend himself by showing that he had sufficiently good reason to believe the statement to be true.

42 posted on 05/14/2004 11:37:37 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Bump!


43 posted on 05/15/2004 2:32:39 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: floriduh voter

Bump!


44 posted on 05/15/2004 2:56:40 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: supercat

I disagree with your characterization but, even if it were the case, reading something on the internet is never going to be construed as a reasonable basis for a belief sufficient to justify a defamatory statement.


45 posted on 05/15/2004 3:08:10 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
I did read it, of course, and it sounds more like an accusation than a friendly warning.

In fact, I wrote my statement in plain declarative sentences and I believe it is true in all particulars. I do not write lies. We have discussed the supporting facts in detail in other threads, including highly qualified medical testimony from FR physicians looking at, e.g., Terri's bone scan. There is also evidence based on her blood chemistry that has yet to be brought out.

So what part of my post do you find false and defamatory?

46 posted on 05/15/2004 5:17:18 AM PDT by T'wit ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Republic; cyn
Visit worldnetdaily.com this morning. They ARE TAKING ON GREER IN A MAJOR WAY and Candidate Jan Govan got some more national publicity in that article as well.

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47 posted on 05/15/2004 7:44:23 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: floriduh voter; Golden Gate

48 posted on 05/15/2004 7:47:25 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: Ohioan from Florida
TURNED AWAY...

Monsignor Malonowski

Doesn't Terri retain the right of FREEDOM OF RELIGION???

49 posted on 05/15/2004 7:51:31 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: floriduh voter
TURNED AWAY...


50 posted on 05/15/2004 7:53:04 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: floriduh voter
TURNED AWAY...


51 posted on 05/15/2004 7:55:06 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: FL_engineer; pc93; GWB and GOP Man; russesjunjee; Calpernia

52 posted on 05/15/2004 7:58:35 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: floriduh voter
J. GREER HAD NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE IN PROBATE OR GUARDIANSHIPS. HE WAS NOT ELECTED... THEN HE WAS UNOPPOSED FOR 12 YEARS. Until now...

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53 posted on 05/15/2004 8:43:59 AM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: T'wit
I don't know if it is false or not - but if it is false, "It was a crime that damaged Terri's brain initially" would certainly be defamatory. Falsely accusing one of causing a life-threatening injury to their spouse would be per se defamatory. That's why I suggested qualifying the statement as one of opinion or speculation.

Even your cited evidence does not support the charge. The bone scan may show some kind of injury, but it does not show how it occurred.

Don't be so sensitive. It was not an accusation, it was a heads up. As in, if Michael Schiavo wanted to sue you for falsely accusing him of a crime, he could. And to assert truth as a defense, you'd have to prove the crime. Not the injury, mind you, but the crime.

54 posted on 05/15/2004 8:44:31 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: phenn
ST PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT

INCIDENT
90-024846

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Report Title: CALL FOR ASSISTANCE
Occurred: SUN 02/25/1990 05:40 To:
Call Received:
Dispatched: 02/25/1990 06:11 Arrived: 06:33 Completed: 08:55
Incident Address.: 12201 9 ST N Apt/Unit: 2210
City.:ST PETERSBURG State: FLORIDA Zip: 33716
Census Tract: 0462 Zone: 23 Dist: 2 Area:


------------------------------------ PERSONS -----------------------------------


Relationship: WITNESS Type: OTHER
Name.: SCHIAVO, THERESA MARIE W/F Dob: 12/03/1963 Age: 39 Aprx Age: 26
Occupation: FIELD SERVICE RBP.
Address: 12201 9 ST N Apt/Unit: 2210 City: ST PETERSBURG
State: FLORIDA Zip: 33716 Home Phone: 813-577-0012
Employer: PRUDENTIAL INS./SEMINOLE Work Phone: 813-391-2410
Synopsis:


Relationship: WITNESS Type: OTHER
Name.: SCHIAVO, MICHAEL RICHARD W/M Dob: 04/03/1963 Age: 40 Aprx Age: 26
Occupation: GENERAL MANAGER
Address: 12201 9 ST N Apt/Unit: 2210 City: ST PETERSBURG
State: FLORIDA Zip: 33716 Home Phone: 813-577-0012
Employer: AGOSTINOS RISTORANTE/CLRWTR Work Phone: 813-573-2040
Synopsis: FOUND WIFE UNCONSCIOUS ON FLOOR/CALLED PARAMEDICS


----------------------------------- EVIDENCE -----------------------------------

Processed: NO By: Photos: NO Prints: NO

-------------------------------- ADMINISTRATION --------------------------------

Officerl: BREWER, PHILLIP R #: 24914 Unit: Date: 02/25/1990
Officer2: TOWER, RODNEY L #: 28194 Unit:
-Route...: HOMICIDE
Sao.....: N/A Date: Division:
Clearance: Exception: Cl. Date: 02/25/1990
Supervisor: CHAPMAN, GEORGE B RET #:11657
Approved By: <unreadable signature> #:24914

----------------------------------- NARRATIVE ----------------------------------


**** This investigation was originally conducted by myself and
then-probationary officer Rodney Tower. The date of the investigation was
February 25, 1990. The report was typed and uploaded into the Police
Information computer system by me at the end of that shift. The report was
transferred to microfilm some time ago and is no longer stored in P.I.


ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT PAGE 1










ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT 90-024846

Similarly, no entry exists in the P.I. system that this report was ever
generated or uploaded. The quality of the microfilm onto which the report was
transferred has degenerated; the report can be read on the microfilm screen
but it is largely unreadable in printed form. Due to the circumstances of
this case, I have reproduced the report in its entirety so the record can be
preserved. This new entry is absolutely accurate as to the content of the
narrative, which could be easily read on the microfilm screen. The captions
are also easily readable on the microfilm screen and they, too, were
reproduced accurately as to content. Only small, technical aspects of the
captions are different because the report writing format has changed since
1990. The date and times listed in the first and last captions reflect the
date and times recorded during the original investigation, not the date and
times this report was reproduced, which was Wednesday, October 22, 2003.
Below is the narrative as it was written on February 25, 1990. ****

=============================================================================


WRITER RESPONDED TO THE ABOVE ADDRESS IN REFERENCE TO PARAMEDICS NEEDING
ASSISTANCE ON A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.

UPON ARRIVAL, WRITER SPOKE WITH FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC J. RADJESKI. HE STATED
HE RESPONDED TO THE ADDRESS FOR A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. THEY FOUND A SUBJECT IN
QUESTION (THERESA) LYING FACE DOWN AND UNCONSCIOUS HALFWAY IN AND HALFWAY OUT
OF A BATHROOM. SHE WAS UNRESPONSIVE THE ENTIRE TIME AND WAS TRANSPORTED TO
HUMANA NORTHSIDE HOSPITAL BY SUNSTAR MEDIC ONE AMBULANCE #328 (J. CAMPBELL AND
J. EISENBRANDT). SHE WAS FOUND WITH HER HEAD FACING EAST OUT INTO A HALLWAY
AND HER FEET AND LEGS POINTING WEST ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR. HE STATED SHE
SHOWED NO OUTWARD SIGNS OF VIOLENCE. THE POLICE WERE CALLED BECAUSE OF HER
AGE AND BECAUSE THE SITUATION SEEMED UNUSUAL.

WRITER FOUND NOTHING UNUSUAL INSIDE THE APARTMENT. THERE WERE NO SIGNS OF A
STRUGGLE OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD INDICATE A CRIME HAD BEEN COMMITTED. VARIOUS
BOTTLES OF PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION WERE PRESENT IN THE KITCHEN; HOWEVER, ONLY
TWO WERE PRESCRIBED TO THERESA.

WRITER SECURED THE APARTMENT AND BROUGHT THE KEYS TO THE HOSPITAL. WRITER
SPOKE WITH THERESA'S HUSBAND (MICHAEL) WHO STATED HE WAS AWAKENED THIS MORNING
WHEN HE HEARD A THUD. HE THOUGHT HIS WIFE HAD FALLEN DOWN AND GOT UP TO CHECK
ON HER. HE FOUND HER UNCONSCIOUS ON THE FLOOR AND CALLED PARAMEDICS.

MICHAEL STATED HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT COULD BE WRONG WITH THERESA. THERE
HAVEN'T BEEN ANY PROBLEMS AT HOME WHICH WOULD LEAD TO HER WANTING TO TRY
SUICIDE AND THEY HAVE HAD NO MAJOR ARGUMENTS LATELY. SHE IS ALLERGIC TO
CERTAIN ITEMS BUT KNOWS WHAT NOT TO INGEST. SHE DOESN'T HAVE A HISTORY OF
HEART DISEASE. SHE HAS HAD RECENT "FEMALE" PROBLEMS AND IS SEEING HER
GYNECOLOGIST ON A REGULAR BASIS. SHE HAS BEEN TIRED LATELY AND NOT FEELING
WELL.

WHEN WRITER OBSERVED THERESA SHE WAS STILL UNCONSCIOUS AND ON A RESPIRATOR.
MEDICAL PERSONNEL ADVISED THAT SHE WAS UNRESPONSIVE UPON ARRIVAL. A DRUG
SCREEN REVEALED NO AMOUNTS OF ILLEGAL NARCOTICS PRESENT IN HER SYSTEM AND HER
BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL MEASURED AT "LESS THAN 10", WHICH A NURSE DESCRIBED AS
BEING THE BOTTOM OF THE SCALE. A PHYSICAL INSPECTION BY WRITER ALSO REVEALED


ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT PAGE 2










ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMSNT 90-024846

NO SIGNS OF TRAUMA TO HER HEAD OR FACE.

WRITER REMAINED AT THE HOSPITAL FOR THE OUTCOME OF THE CAT SCAN. THE SCAN
REVEALED NO "MID-LINE SHIFT" OF THE BRAIN WHICH WOULD INDICATE AN OBVIOUS
ABNORMALITY. ADDITIONAL TESTING IS NECESSARY TO DETECT A POSSIBLE ANEURYSM
OR PULMONARY EMB0LISM.

WRITER GAVE MICHAEL A BUSINESS CARD WITH THE OFFENSE NUMBER. HE WAS TOLD THAT
WRITER WOULD CALL FOR AN UPDATE OF HER CONDITION AND NO FURTHER ACTION WAS
TAKEN.

EOR











































ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT PAGE 3
55 posted on 05/15/2004 2:06:12 PM PDT by pc93
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To: lugsoul; T'wit
As in, if Michael Schiavo wanted to sue you for falsely accusing him of a crime, he could. And to assert truth as a defense, you'd have to prove the crime.

I wouldn't worry too much about Michael suing. That would mean all the evidence he is suppressing would have to be brought out and looked at in the light of day.

56 posted on 05/15/2004 2:42:27 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (The right to die? or the right to be killed - http://www.life-or-death-decisions.org)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Todays message to the media, politicians, and also to both the informed and ignorant populace:

To those of you who say this is a right-to-die matter or politics, or I'm a
religious nut I say poppycock, just try to pigeon hole me.

There is no right to attempt or accomplish murder on the innocent disabled
regardless if apparently sanctioned by the State, if this happens again re:
Terri Schindler Schiavo the State will be complicit in continued attempted
murder attempts. There are laws against mercy killing and Terri doesn't need
mercy.. she needs rehabilitation and deserves to be brought to full capacity
at the earliest possible time which she has continually been denied.

Read the depositions, statements in court and on national television of
Michael Schiavo regarding the evening/morning of Terri's collapse then look
at the police report of how the paramedics found Terri face down on the
floor. Also see Michael's statements that he will continue in his attempts
to take care of Terri (how could anyone read this any different then that he
will continue in his attempts to kill Terri) even if the courts rule against
him. Terri deserves protective custody from the State of Florida and
guardianship under Michael Schiavo needs to be removed:

Police report, statements of Michael, etc.:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131600/posts?page=350#350

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1125603/posts?page=34#34

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1135763/posts?page=55#55

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120621/posts?page=261#261

Interesting timeline:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/my/comments?more=56265851

Some depositions of Michael:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1108693/posts?page=117#117



This doesn't take a rocket scientist: You do not sit comatose or people in
PVS up in a chair but you do sit up disabled people in chairs. The media,
politicians, populace of the United States of America needs to quit being
misinformed and ignorant of the disabled and needs to stop torturing and
killing the disabled merely because they are disabled or because someone
(someone who to all intents and purposes is continuing in their attempts to
commit murder) says they said they wouldn't want to live like that.

Sincerely,

Juan V Schoch

Concerned Florida Resident

United States Citizen

__

A statement was released on Friday, May 14th by the Clearwater Police
Department  stating that they found NO evidence of criminal activity, NO
indication of attempted criminal activity, and no harm done to Mrs. Schiavo,
stating that the investigation has concluded.

The police report also included that the two aides who were on duty on the
day the incident happened, had told the nurse on duty that the marks on
Terri's arm were on her arm before the Schindler's had visited that day.

The charge nurse who had called Michael to report the marks, had told
Michael Schiavo that the aides had reported that the marks were there before
Bob and Mary had visited.

The police detective also had found other caps such as the one that was
reported by attorney George Felos of Dunedin, Florida as suspicious,  in
other enteral irrigation tubing packaging.

Last evening after 47 days of the Schindler's not being permitted to see
their daughter, the Schindler's excitedly drove to Park Place to be reunited
with Terri.

Upon their arrival, the nurse rang Michael Schiavo to ask if it was okay for
the Schindler's to go in to see their daughter. Michael Schiavo told the
nurse to tell them "No".

Although no criminal activity was concluded, it appears that the Schindler's
are now forced to wait and see their daughter until a decision is made on
the 26th of May when an emergency hearing is scheduled to be heard in Judge
Greer's court for restoration of visitation.


___

For 47 days, including Mother's Day... the Schindler Family have been denied
access to their daughter for an alleged incident that turned out to be
nothing better than a hoax. Michael Schiavo and George Felos have created a
situation in which they forcibly isolated Terri Schindler-Schiavo from her
family. This was done on false accusations that they had caused harm to
their own daughter.  In a press release dated March 29th, George Felos of
Dunedin, Florida all but accused Terri's parents of injecting her and
inflicting puncture wounds on her arm:

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/30/Tampabay/Doctors_examine_Schia.shtml

As you will read in the following
official press release from the Clearwater Police Department these charges
are false and unsubstantiated.

Decide for yourself what the motives were.

CHERYL FORD RN
FIGHT4TERRI@AOL.COM


Here is the Clearwater Police News Release



NEWS RELEASE

For Immediate Release
May 14, 2004

INVESTIGATION FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME

Clearwater Police Criminal Investigations Detectives concluded today an
expansive and detailed investigation into suspicions that physical harm done
with criminal intent had been visited upon a 40-year-old woman under the
care of Hospice in Clearwater.

The investigation found no evidence of harm, injury or violation as the
result of a criminal act, said Police Chief Sid Klein.

The Hospice patient, Mrs. Theresa M. Schiavo, was the subject of
investigative, forensic and medical scrutiny after concern was expressed for
her well-being on March 29, 2004.

At about 3:30 that Monday afternoon - as Mrs. Schiavo's feeding regimen
commenced - a Hospice employee noticed some marks on Mrs. Schiavo's arms,
and shared her observations with a Hospice supervisor at the Park Place
assisted living facility, 2750 Drew Street. Concerns were heightened by the
position of a plastic hospital bracelet on Mrs. Schiavo's forearm; the
positioning of a plastic feeding tube wrapped around the chair in which she
was sitting; and the discovery of a small, purple medical apparatus,
initially described as a "needle cap."

(The lavender object, manufactured by a New York medical supply company
called Qosina, is not a hypodermic needle cap, but rather a hollow,
open-ended polypropylene "catheter syringe tip adapter" - called a Luer,
part # 41501 - and is used as a plastic tubing connector in medical feeding
and irrigation setups; it has no application for injection).

The Hospice supervisor notified Mrs. Schiavo's husband, Michael, who called
his attorney and his wife's physician, Dr. Stanton Tripodis. The physician
examined Mrs. Schiavo at Park Place, and authorized her transfer to Mease
Hospital in Dunedin for an examination. Various procedures, including
toxicology tests for the presence of unauthorized drugs, proved negative,
and Mrs. Schiavo was returned to Hospice care.

Clearwater Police Detectives conducted numerous interviews with family
members, physicians, Hospice employees and others. The Mease Hospital
attending physician found nothing untoward about the marks on Mrs. Schiavo's
arm, nor did her personal physician. Neither physician quantified the marks
on her upper arm as evidence of an injection; the origin of these specific
marks is undetermined.

Although Detectives cannot say conclusively what caused the other marks,
it's believed they could have been the result of a apparatus called a "Hoyer
Lift," used to move a patient from a reclining position on a bed to a
sitting position in a chair.

The plastic hospital bracelet, a rigid band of plastic, may have worked
itself up her forearm toward her elbow since Mrs. Schiavo's arms are often
contracted upward.

The feeding tube and its position was examined by Hospice employees when
concerns were initially expressed, and subsequently by investigators: there
was no indication of leakage; detectives found no indication of intentional
manipulation; the monitor warning alarm was never activated, nor was the
feeding ever interrupted.

Detectives identified the lavender piece of plastic found in Mrs. Schiavo's
clothes as a tubing connector, and had an independent company (National
Medical Services of Willow Grove, Pennsylvania) conduct chemical and gas
examinations of swabs taken from the Luer adapter. The test results were
negative for foreign substances.

The Clearwater Police Department found no evidence of criminal activity, no
indication of attempted criminal activity, and no harm done to Mrs. Schiavo.
The investigation has concluded.

All inquiries regarding this investigation should be directed to Public
Information Officer Wayne Shelor at (727) 562-4333.
/s/
SID KLEIN
Chief of Police

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Whoever said that "Crime doesn't pay" didn't live in our times.
 MOM MUST PAY ADMISSION TO SEE HER DAUGHTER?



This is Terri's 47th day of forced isolation from her parents, siblings,
priest, those who love her and her 1492nd day confined to just a single
small room by Hospice of the Florida Suncoast (give or take a few days
of having to be in the hospital from neglect and almost being
dehydrated/starved to death).

Just when you thought the bottom of the barrel was being reached. now there
is a fax from Michael Schiavo's attorney Deborah Bushnell that the
Schindlers could be permitted to visit their daughter if they pay for an off
duty police officer to accompany them (arranged by Deborah Bushnell & Co. of
course):

                     Deborah A. Bushnell
                          Attorney
                     204 Scotland Street
                      Dunedin, FL 34698
                     Phone: (727)733-9064


By Facsimile: (727) 898-4903

                                                   May 06, 2004

Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
447 Third Avenue N., Suite 405
St. Petersburg, FL  33701

Re: Schiavo, Theresa - #1834 -Guardianship

Dear Pat:

I received your fax dated May 4, 2004.

We inquired of Hospice as to whether they would allow their
security officers to be in the room during Robert and Mary
Schindlers' visitation.  To date, we have not received their
consent to this arrangement, and it does not seem likely that
such an arrangement can be made with them in the near future.

In the interim, the Schindlers may visit Terri in the presence
of a security officer.  However, we would have to make private
security options.  If your clients are agreeable to paying the
cost of such supervision, please let us know, and we will
follow up to make arrangements for the visitation and let you
know the cost.


                                          Sincerely,



                                          <signed>
                                          Deborah A. Bushnell


cc Michael Schiavo
   George J. Felos, Esq.
   Scott P. Swope, Esq.

+++

Terri is denied any extensive/comprehensive range of motion therapy or any
kind of therapies that could make her better. Terri is not terminal yet
Michael Schiavo is trying hard to make it so. AHCA's April 1st investigation
didn't see anything wrong with Terri's teeth yet shortly after their
investigation 5 teeth were completely removed from her mouth, with no
restorative work considered. How could the AHCA not have noticed anything
wrong? The surveyors notes of this investigation are a must read. They show
to what lengths Hospice of Florida Suncoast, Michael Schiavo, etc. are going
to deceive investigators to cover up the fraud and criminal neglect they are
committing upon Terri, the people of Florida, United States and the world.
The AHCA appears to be complicit in aiding and abetting these crimes.
AHCA is committing fraud and I have the proof. These Chapter 119 documents
are available upon request to pc93@bellsouth.net

There is a big question: WHAT ARE YOU AND YOUR FEDERAL AND
STATE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DOING ABOUT BRINGING THE
PERPETRATORS TO JUSTICE? Contact the senators for your district and
ask them what can be done, there are any number of actions that can be
taken.

Contact as many people as you can (governmental and non-governmental)
about Terri's plight. Make stickers, bumper stickers, licence plates,
posters, etc.

Be creative, do take action.

"Petition for State protective custody for Terri" (please get the petition
information out to as many peoples as possible)
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/chisana7/

"Saving Terri Schiavo"
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/19461949/

Laws being broken:
http://zimp.org/

Petition for Governor Bush to put Terri in protective custody:
http://www.petitiononline.com/chisana7/petition.html

Connect the Dots ... for Terri
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1130771/posts?page=11#11

http://www.terrisfight.org

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm

__

The light is shining brighter on the real fact that pursuant to the Life
Felony Crimes Laws, FS825.102, which are intended to protect all of us from
the acts or omissions of others to cause us great harm or even cause our
death, when we become unable to speak and do for ourselves, no matter the
cause -- No person, elderly or disabled can be denied food and water,
delivered by any means we are able to receive, or medicine, speech therapy,
physical therapy, necessary services and rehabilitation -- to do so carries
up to Life Felony imprisonment.

Michael is just a used name.  He is a puppet.  The real people behind all of
these criminal acts that have been perpetrated upon vulnerable and fleecable
people, just as with Terri, are the Debra Bushnell's, the George Felos', the
Clan of Judges and the law enforcement officials they puppeteer.  This
bunch -- there are other groups just like them around the state -- are only
using the powers of a guardian to *hide* Terri [ cage/kidnap ] to make sure
she gets no stimulation, no visitors, no therapies of any kind, and possibly
try to intentionally depress her by telling her that her blood family has
abandoned her, so she will give up on living; so that she will give up
fighting them from causing her to die; Causing death = Killing.  All doctors
have testified that she can hear.  Videotaped examinations prove it.

Michael Schiavo has been a borrowed name on all of these court filings for
the purpose of making this woman dead.   It was in May of 1998 when Michael
came up with the announcement to the public, through his Petition to Kill hi
s wife with a civil court order obtained for the purpose of starving and
dehydrating his wife to death.  If that is true, his bringing to the
attention of the 6th Circuit Court, and never before in the 140 other court
hearing and trial opportunities going back to the day Terri was injured, the
hearsay and unwritten assertion that his wife told him several years prior
to 1990 that she would not want to live on a feeding tube.  So teach her how
to eat by mouth again.  Judge Greer was asked by her kin, and showed the
laws that mandate, but going against the laws he took oath to uphold, he
instead said "I don't want anybody feeding that woman", during open court in
2001.

Given that between Feb 1990 and May 1998 Michael never brought up any
statements of Terri's saying no feeding tube and not saying that she wanted
to be starved to death, the light now shines directly on December 14, 1995,
nearly 2 and one half years prior to Michael's *new* assertion that Terri
did not want a feeding tube.

That is the day, according to a careless mistake of two of the perpetrators
using Michael to make Terri dead, that George Felos and Debra Bushnell had a
meeting to discuss the discontinuance of the feeding tube.  It was a full 16
months prior to Michael having his first conference with George Felos on
March 14, 1997.   Felos is the self-proclaimed right-to-be-made-dead
attorney that was immediately hired by Michael and approved by the court two
months, to be paid with Terri's Jury awarded 1.4 million dollars
specifically for 51 years of life expectancy and for her care AND
rehabilitation.  Not for an attorney hired to kill her.

So, Michael's guardianship attorney Bushnell,
meets with the expert death attorney Felos,
16 months later Michael hires Felos using Terri's money and not his own
$660,000 jury award to shack up and make babies with Jodi Centonze while
prohibiting any forms of rehabilitation,
so that he can use his wife's money to make her dead, and then yet another
14 months later,
makes the announcement that Terri said in 1986 "no feeding tube" by filing
May 11, 1998 *his* Petition to starve and dehydrate Terri --- an act,
granted by a judge,  that would  kill his wife, would finish her off, by
denying and withholding all forms of food, water, medicine, speech therapy,
necessary services and rehabilitation.

The light is on the calculator.  The sum of the facts could appear to total
up to a Premeditated Plot and Plan to intentionally kill their clients wife.
A plan that was developed over several years.  Once the permission was
sought from Judge Greer, this murder plan was enacted, and set into play.
This changed everything into a bonafide crime.  Attempted Murder, 1st Degree
Felony Falsification of Advance Directives (30 years), 1st Degree Felony
Neglect with intent to cause death and Attempted Aggravated Manslaughter on
a Disabled Person -- all pursuant to the Crime Laws and Statutes of Florida.

Judge Greer in his  February 11, 2000 Order, committed malpractice by
misdiagnosing Terri as being an unconscious and unaware person [lawsuit 1]
and then Ordered the Guardian of the Ward to commit a 1st Degree Felony
Crime by removing Terri's feeding tube and denying her constitutional and
legal right to be protected and not feloniously victimized by being caused
to die.

Is the light on for anyone else?

David.
[Note: dates and timelines taken directly from public guardianship records,
public records, transcripts and depositions]

___

  >Is the light on for anyone else?

  My only comment is that it's all moot so long as the principals enjoy
virtual "above the law" status.
 

57 posted on 05/15/2004 2:48:47 PM PDT by pc93
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To: Motherbear
Hi Motherbear,
I glanced backwards at your history of posts, and you seem to have a good head on your shoulders, and a good heart. So let's assume you just aren't well informed...

...or else maybe you meant sarcasm, but I didn't catch it...

According to her health care workers from 1996, Terri was eating soft food with a spoon at that time.

...and then theres this from 2002...
From "Terri Big Eyes" video available at www.terrisfight.org

Terri starts out apparently asleep. A doctor wakes her to start his tests.

Doctor: Terri. Open your eyes up...

Terri: (Startled at hearing her name. She starts moving her mouth and fluttering her eyes, like a person who is just waking up)

Doctor: Open your eyes, Terri open your eyes

Terri: (slowly at first, Terri struggles to open her eyes, then turns toward the doctor, and opens her eyes a normal amount)

Doctor: There you go, good.

Terri: (then, either to show off(?) or wanting to perform well, she leans further forward toward the doctor, looks straight at him and opens her eyes as WIDE AS SHE CAN. Note the WRINKLES ACROSS HER FOREHEAD caused by her also RAISING HER EYEBROWS as high as possible )

Doctor: [now obviously impressed] GOOD!! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB YOUNG LADY! Good Job.

58 posted on 05/15/2004 4:19:29 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: lugsoul

A few things lugsoul: A 1991 Bone Scan report conducted by Dr. Campbell Walker, MD, showed thirteen fractures and listed "repeated trauma" among the text within that report. Terri Schiavo was initially diagnosed as having a "Stiff Neck" at the time of her entrance into Humana Hospital. Dr. Hammesfahr, a board-certified neurologist listed "possible strangulation" in 2002 as the reason for Terri's neck injury, which is permanent, Lugsoul. Michael Schiavo, litigious enough to sue Terri's gynecologist for millions of dollars, never uttered a word to anyone for over a decade in the 1992 malpractice trial nor anywhere else concerning that bone scan report. An innocent Michael would have shouted this report from the rooftops! So, you see, Lugsoul, also, last November, Michael's lawyer filed a protective order, barring ANY discussion of said Bone Scan report by Dr. Walker. Schiavo had the report, Schiavo concealed the report, and he's STILL attempting to hide that report!

A dozen years after the lawsuit in 1992, a doctor starts asking some questions. Bulimia, causing a heart attack, depriving Terri's brain of oxygen was the cause of her injuries? At least Grimm's Fairy Tales usually have a happy ending. Terri's teeth were never acid-eroded, Lug, Terri never had muscle cramps, Lug, Terri's potassium was out of whack, but so were a bunch of other levels. Do a little research, Lug, look up who the defense attorney of Pru was: Yes, John Charles Lenderman, name ring a bell? As in, John Charles Lenderman, Greer benchmate, as in husband of another Lenderman, on the board of Suncoast Hospice? This story stinks to holy high heaven!

This country allows for its citizens to sue for just about anything, so yeah, Schiavo could ostesibly sue someone, or perhaps file a class action suit against who knows, half the free world, that regualarly discusses this sleazeball. Unfortunately, if our hero Michael Schiavo is idiotic enough to file a lawsuit for libel or slander, protesting statements made about him all over the nation by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, he would be in an interesting position. In order to prove slander or libel, the burden of proof falls on the accused bringing action to prove the statements untrue. At least the records would need to be discussed. You see, opinion is opinion, Lug, and the public is not a court of law. Within a court, certain rules need to be followed, like a person is always innocent until proven guilty. When you have such blatant and obvious judicial activism, cronyism, bias, and favoritism as in this case, when foolish decisions by a judge not fit to decide what color wallpaper should go up in his living room let alone allow oral and unsubstantiated statements to pass for "clear and convincing" evidence, when you see how flawed of a history that this judge has, how he sent a woman to death because of his faulty judgement, well, the public doesn't have to wait for a slick, cadaver-chasing lawyer to find loopholes for his client and the law, in order for the public to know that something is up.

I would assume that if the ACLU is latching on to the FREEREPUBLIC, it is no surprise since the ACLU is defending Michael's lawsuit against the state of Florida. I suppose that they want to keep their client looking clean.

There isn't enough Dawn Detergent and Lysol to get the smell of fish off this guy.


60 posted on 05/15/2004 6:02:32 PM PDT by MonteMar
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