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Muslim prayer call likely to be on city's ballot
The Detroit Free Press | May 25, 2004 | Cecil Angel

Posted on 05/25/2004 8:27:49 AM PDT by wmichgrad

Tonight, petitions could stall Muslim prayer call

http://www.freep.com/news/locway/call25_20040525.htm


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: catholic; hamtramck; muslim; muslims; prayer
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To: CatoRenasci

It looks to me like the Muslim faith peaked in the 12th century. Its been worse than stagnant -- its gone downhill ever since. Doubt it any modern Muslim kids in the madrases would know what an astrolabe it, or how to use it. But I bet you they can tell you the fault of everything on this planet is due to the Jews or the Americans. And as long they can fill their hearts with hate, and scream their death chants, they will convince themselves that they are humanity's best hope.


81 posted on 05/25/2004 9:14:15 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: wmichgrad

Maybe the Muslims have forgotten that they're in AMERICA! When in Rome.....


83 posted on 05/25/2004 9:17:10 AM PDT by Jaysun (If a person says that he enjoys the opera, that person is a liar.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

"But I have to admit I get a bit of perverse pleasure in seeing Christians find out what it's like to be on the other end of in-your-face religion."

How you can even compare the two only reveals your ignorance. I've lived in this "mostly" Christian country all my life...and I've never felt like Christians are shoving their religion in my face.


84 posted on 05/25/2004 9:17:53 AM PDT by cwb (Liberals: Always fighting for social justice in all the wrong places.)
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To: wmichgrad

It makes no difference on what basis the decision is made. How does stopping the wailing on loudspeakers prevent them from practicing their religion or from speaking out against the government? Are you really this slow or do you simply not understand the very arguments you were trying to make?


85 posted on 05/25/2004 9:17:54 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Indeed. They regard everything that has gone against them, from the reconquesta of Spain to the Iraq war, as merely temporary setbacks in Allah's program to have the entire world ruled exactly as Mahomet envisoned things in the 7th century.
86 posted on 05/25/2004 9:18:25 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: ostephani
I like the Apostle's Creed analogy stated somewhere in a previous post. Would the muslims approve of hearing that 5 times a day or whatever?

I think this is the perfect opportunity to preach the gospel of Jesus. A minute after the 'call to prayer', a Christian church in the area ought to broadcast a prayer or a lovely hymn.

Milk it for all it's worth.

87 posted on 05/25/2004 9:19:25 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Chad Fairbanks

No, I am not a troll. I do apologize for sharing my opinion, though.


88 posted on 05/25/2004 9:20:41 AM PDT by wmichgrad
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To: 1066AD
Just maybe inflexible islam needs to adapt to the host culture.

Briefly.

Until they can convert the law system to Sharia law at gunpoint, that is.

89 posted on 05/25/2004 9:21:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown ..................................(I miss ya harpseal))
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To: Turbo Pig
Go look up the words to these calls to prayers and you will see that they are pure prostylization(sp?)

Whatever the words are, the purpose is a call for Muslims to pray, nothing more.

A person can walk away from someone preaching the gospel.

Easier said than done.

That being the case the victims are called intolerant and bigoted;

Yes, when they frame their arguments as "I don't want that religion around me."

Frame it as "I don't want that noise at 6 a.m." and I'm right there with you. I don't expect the council that allowed this to happen to last beyond the next election.

90 posted on 05/25/2004 9:21:37 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: wmichgrad

Church bells are CHURCH BELLS....its a NON VOCAL sound, usually done once a day in some cities..in others ONLY on Sunday. If a Christian Church (or any religion) started saying prayers or sermans over their loud speakers EVERY DAY, SEVERAL TIMES A DAY for the ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HEAR I would NOT agree with that either.

The MUSLIMS are VERBALIZING a "prayer"...SEVERAL TIMES A DAY TO A ENTIRE POPULATION WITHIN EARSHOT.(MUSLIM OR NOT) Just because you cant understand the language DOES NOT make it any less offensive to those who dont want to be "preached at".

Thats the difference: "Bells" are a non-verbal sound which is also considered part of the traditional culture of this country for many Americans,like it or not.

Spin it anyway you want..The reality speaks for itself. This is just one more way for the Muslims to force their beliefs on others.


91 posted on 05/25/2004 9:22:22 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (Life is to short for ugly shoes.)
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To: wmichgrad

I never said you were a troll. I believe I used the word "kid", did I not?


92 posted on 05/25/2004 9:23:41 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (You make me feel warm all over. No...wait...I'm soaking in a puddle of my own urine.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Keeping in mind that this kid just joined up a few days ago. I am highly suspicious, so to speak...

I'm a troll. I didn't join up that long ago.

93 posted on 05/25/2004 9:23:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown ..................................(I miss ya harpseal))
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To: appalachian_dweller
This is America. Adapt to OUR traditions or get out.

OUR tradition is freedom of religion. Conversion to Christianity is not a prerequisite for citizenship.

94 posted on 05/25/2004 9:23:45 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: wmichgrad
Call to prayer ?... Can't muslims afford watches ?..
Unless the call to prayer is an "up yours" to all infidels.
95 posted on 05/25/2004 9:23:59 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: goodnesswins
....we have not FORCED people here to live under CHRISTIAN doctrine

Tried to do anything on a Sunday in some places?

96 posted on 05/25/2004 9:24:37 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Lazamataz

Well, duh. We are all trolls. ;0)


97 posted on 05/25/2004 9:25:19 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (You make me feel warm all over. No...wait...I'm soaking in a puddle of my own urine.)
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To: wmichgrad







The Muslim call to prayer is a terrorist threat.


98 posted on 05/25/2004 9:27:29 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
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To: antiRepublicrat

You consistently espouse islam on this forum. It's not appreciated.


99 posted on 05/25/2004 9:27:32 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: antiRepublicrat

I have. What I have found is that because of tradition, many people take sunday off - especially small business owners who work in their shops the other 6 days of the week.

Sort of like how kids have summers off from school because of tradition? But hey, just because you can't go to some place you want to go to on a sunday (which is becoming more and more rare, these days) doesn't mean you are being indoctrinated into a religion.

tell me - do you still see bogey men under your bed, too?


100 posted on 05/25/2004 9:27:50 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (You make me feel warm all over. No...wait...I'm soaking in a puddle of my own urine.)
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