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Kerry says he believes that life starts at conception
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com ^ | July 05, 2004 | Jonathan Finer

Posted on 07/05/2004 12:58:47 AM PDT by miltonim

DYERSVILLE, Iowa — As Sen. John Kerry campaigned across Iowa yesterday with Gov. Tom Vilsack, widely reported to be on Kerry's vice-presidential short list, both men dodged repeated questions about whether their joint appearance might be a preview of the Democratic ticket.

But even as he tried to avoid making news, Kerry broke ground in an interview that ran in the Dubuque, Iowa, daily, the Telegraph Herald. A Catholic who supports abortion rights and has taken heat recently from some in the church hierarchy for his stance, Kerry told the paper: "I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life does begin at conception.

"I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist," he continued. "We have separation of church and state in the United States of America."

The comments came on the final day of a three-state Midwest swing, during which Kerry has repeatedly sought to dispel stereotypes that could play negatively among voters in the Midwest.

President Bush's campaign said these instances are further evidence of what it says is Kerry's propensity for misleading flip-flops.

"John Kerry's ridiculous claim to hold conservative values and his willingness to change his beliefs to fit his audience betrays a startling lack of conviction on important issues like abortion that will make it difficult for voters to give him their trust," said Steve Schmidt, a Bush campaign spokesman.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2004; abortion; campaign; conception; election; kerry; life; prolife; unborn
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1 posted on 07/05/2004 12:58:48 AM PDT by miltonim
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To: miltonim

This guy voted for stabbing an infant in the head and sucking out the brain of the baby.


2 posted on 07/05/2004 1:02:40 AM PDT by america-rules (It's US or THEM so what part don't you understand ?)
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To: america-rules

If he really believes this, then he is far worse than someone who supports abortion, but who also believes that life doesn't begin at conception.


3 posted on 07/05/2004 1:04:12 AM PDT by ambrose ("Wearing Religion on Your Sleeve," DemoRat Style: http://tinyurl.com/yvvmz)
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To: miltonim

His back must be killing him from doing so many flip-flops. If somebody asked Kerry what time it was, he'd have watches on both wrists to tell him and he still wouldn't give you a straight answer.


4 posted on 07/05/2004 1:04:17 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Send Senator Lurch back to the graveyard this November. It's for the children.)
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To: miltonim

He does, that is until he doesn't.


5 posted on 07/05/2004 1:05:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: miltonim

That makes sense. The old creep is only trying to win over votes. But of course, it doesn't make sense for him to be against abortion when he voted for partial-birth abortion.


6 posted on 07/05/2004 1:06:18 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: miltonim
The Ten Commandments

VI. Thou shalt not kill.

"I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist. We have separation of church and state in the United States of America." -- John Kerry

7 posted on 07/05/2004 1:07:17 AM PDT by Gelato
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The Declaration of Independence

We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


8 posted on 07/05/2004 1:10:14 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: ambrose

We need to put his voting record out there for all to see. I'm sure the dims that flock to his speeches have never checked his pro choice votes, or any other for that matter.


9 posted on 07/05/2004 1:13:16 AM PDT by raisincane (Kerry has never made a decision he agrees with.)
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"I oppose abortion slavery, personally. I don't like abortion slavery. I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist. We have separation of church and state in the United States of America." -- John Kerry
10 posted on 07/05/2004 1:17:27 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Just a thought, but those who strive to the uttermost for so-called "separation" of church and state are both anti-church (anti-community) and anti-state. They wish to keep church and state "separate", the better to dismember each principle separately. It's not entirely clear that church and state are meant to be fully separate; there being a Christian humanist tradition which maintains both church and state under its wings, in separate activities perhaps though not separate dimensions.


11 posted on 07/05/2004 1:19:07 AM PDT by BrucefromMtVernon
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To: Gelato
Some interpret that commandment as "Thou shall not murder", which is more appropriate
12 posted on 07/05/2004 1:23:42 AM PDT by stylin19a (parking on the curb is not off-roading)
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To: miltonim

Thankyou for posting this,i just saw it on drudge,however my posting skills are not up to par yet.

Joh 8:44 You are of the Devil as father, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and did not abide in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it.

that about say's it.


13 posted on 07/05/2004 1:25:28 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (saved by GRACE and GRACE alone)
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To: miltonim

One of the most amazing photographs that you'll ever see --

is this picture of Samuel, a 21 week old baby boy, whose tiny hand reaches out of the womb and grabs the finger of the surgeon who was operating on him, as if to say, "thanks doc, you did a wonderful job." It should be seen by the WHOLE WORLD.

Kerry - "I believe life begins at conception...but I voted to make legal the killing of this life"..

Semper Fi

14 posted on 07/05/2004 1:26:45 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: alpha-8-25-02
DRUDGE REPORT QUOTES KERRY: "...LIFE DOES BEGIN AT CONCEPTION..."
15 posted on 07/05/2004 1:28:44 AM PDT by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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"I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist," he continued. "We have separation of church and state in the United States of America."

Then Mr Kerry the least you could have done was be out of town when it came time for the vote on partial birth abortion you phony baloney.

16 posted on 07/05/2004 1:29:18 AM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: alpha-8-25-02
I was against abortion, before I was for it.and then I was against it.

Hanoi John Kerry

17 posted on 07/05/2004 1:30:18 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Donate ten bucks. It's easy and you feel good after doing it!)
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To: miltonim
Kerry told the paper: "I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life does begin at conception.

"I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist," he continued. "We have separation of church and state in the United States of America."

Unless this man is a totally base sociopath he can not mean what he says here.

If you believe that life begins at conception then to intentionally abort a human fetus is to intentionally end a human life.

This is of course murder.

The last I heard murder was a crime against the State and in many states a capital crime.

I don’t see Mr. Kerry’s Catholicism being an issue in legislating against murder.

18 posted on 07/05/2004 1:34:32 AM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: Pontiac
Unless this man is a totally base sociopath he can not mean what he says here...

It is the same position as that taken by Mario Cuomo. Remember him?

19 posted on 07/05/2004 1:42:11 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Jet Jaguar; miltonim

Re 21:8 But the fearful, and the unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, will have their part in the Lake burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
(MKJV)
well God may save johnnie,not for me to judge.
however the outlook is not good.


20 posted on 07/05/2004 1:46:11 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (saved by GRACE and GRACE alone)
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