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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate (Pre-Debate discussion)

Posted on 09/30/2004 3:50:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Edited on 09/30/2004 6:27:02 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

There have been several "live threads" posted today regarding the debate starting early this morning. Let's make this the official thread.

FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; americangigolo; bushwon; cuticlesforkerry; debate; debates; electionpresident; fingernails; firstdebate; flushthejohn; jonsquerry; livethread; lurch; manicure; official; orangeman
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To: valleygal
I heard him mention weapons of mass destruction crossing a border, too. I'm not sure what he was talking about.

Finally getting a chance to go back and review comments on this thread after getting on the other one. I did not make this point there and haven't seen anyone else state it, but I think when Kerry said "WMD" crossing he meant to say "terrorists". I think if this is brought up he'll say something like when people say Saddam was a WMD---terrorists are WMD, see? But I think in actuality he misspoke.

2,881 posted on 09/30/2004 9:28:24 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: WRhine

Joe Hadenuf's little double-digit IQ acolyte? Nice stance.

I HATE the way ugly old men have corrupted the immigration issue on FR, and you are one of the worst.


2,882 posted on 09/30/2004 9:29:13 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: MeekOneGOP
This debate did more for Kerry than it did for Bush in terms of expression of ideas but more for Bush on core values.

The average Joe on the street not knowing squat about the real issues (which is a large number) would lean to Kerry because Kerry is actually a better debater (read: politician) than Bush is.

Kerry of course flip-flopped several times on present and past positions on Iraq followed always by his promise to pull the troops out before Bush would.

Kerry never gave a real plan on Iraq and never really showed any leadership at all whereas Bush gave realistic answers ("We're not going to pull out of Iraq until we reach the objective of bringing freedom and democracy to the people of Iraq.")

Neither gained much more than what they had when they went into this debate and it was so boring I fell asleep and had to rewind to see what I missed.

2,883 posted on 09/30/2004 9:29:32 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 33 more days until November 2nd.)
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To: Jorge

He didn't look angry. He looked scornful.


2,884 posted on 09/30/2004 9:30:58 PM PDT by Wallaby
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To: txflake

Nah. You're not really that smart. In fact, "STOOPID" comes to mind.

But that's "ME". And I'm usually ... not always ... but not always right.

You are a goof and probably a loser.


2,885 posted on 09/30/2004 9:33:50 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: cyncooper

Kerry DID mention WMD's crossing the border. Yes, the WMD's that Sadamn sneaked over the border to Syria while we waited for the UN weapons inspectors to search for same in IRAQ.


2,886 posted on 09/30/2004 9:34:55 PM PDT by Roselani
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To: Happy2BMe
:^(




2,887 posted on 09/30/2004 9:36:38 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Bush won big.

Don't kid yourself.

Kerry is through.


2,888 posted on 09/30/2004 9:36:54 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker
I HATE the way ugly old men have corrupted the immigration issue on FR, and you are one of the worst.

Nice turn of phrase...
For a thirteen year old girl.

2,889 posted on 09/30/2004 9:37:35 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I, also, don't do diplomacy.)
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To: olliemb
You are passing judgment based on a beauty contest--listen to what President Bush said and what Kerry said--global opinion for preemptive strike??? Please, if Kerry danced better does that make him a better president?

Well, the first polls are coming in showing Kerry won the debates BIG TIME.

Bush has the superior position, but argued as though he had the weakest position. I love Bush but he's a pathetic debater!

2,890 posted on 09/30/2004 9:37:45 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Barlowmaker

You sound like a distraught Cheerleader whose team just lost a game. Cheer Up! There are other games. The season is not over. Lose the angry face and Get those Poms Poms Up!


2,891 posted on 09/30/2004 9:37:46 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: betty boop; xzins

Excellent points, betty boop! xzins, there may be some fresh pickings for your list on betty boop's post at 2866.


2,892 posted on 09/30/2004 9:38:32 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Camachee

How can I disagree with that statement! kerry is a WMD!

LLS


2,893 posted on 09/30/2004 9:39:39 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (kerry... a girlie-man who built his life on a bedrock of lies, and derives his strength from EVIL!)
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To: Barlowmaker; MeekOneGOP
You guys are preaching to the choir.

I'm talking about *general public* reaction and not GOP faithful.

Personally, it was one of the most boring debates I've ever seen.

2,894 posted on 09/30/2004 9:40:18 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 33 more days until November 2nd.)
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To: Jorge

Believe what you will, Jorge! We hereby part in respectful though irreconcilable difference.


2,895 posted on 09/30/2004 9:40:39 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Wallaby
He didn't look angry. He looked scornful.

Either way he looked like Kerry got under his skin. That is exactly how Carter looked in the first debates with Reagan.

This makes Bush look like a loser to me. I am just sick over it.

2,896 posted on 09/30/2004 9:40:51 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Barlowmaker

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1232176/posts


2,897 posted on 09/30/2004 9:40:56 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Happy2BMe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1232176/posts


2,898 posted on 09/30/2004 9:41:16 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Barlowmaker

I just got a great idea. We have a big security issue brewing in Washington state. Very explosive. Could be harmful to American citizens - even explosive. As Kerry is so much into inspections and talks in place of actually doing something, can we get Kerry to send in inspectors to the state and then personally go talk to Helen and calm her down. He's dull enough to put a valcanoe to sleep - might work. If it doesn't well, maybe it will prove once and for all that putting an explosive element in time out for a discussion and a latte' doesn't solve a problem - the first or the Sixteenth time if the party has no interest in listening or doing what they agree to. Mr Kerry, go negotiate a peaceful resolution with the mountain so that St. Helens doesn't erupt and hurt anyone.. lol


2,899 posted on 09/30/2004 9:42:13 PM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: Barlowmaker

Take the fight elsewhere,please.


2,900 posted on 09/30/2004 9:44:42 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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