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America, Imagine This!
Electronic Iraq ^ | 20 October 2004 | M. Shahid Alam

Posted on 10/23/2004 7:34:16 AM PDT by kddid

Over the past three years, I have followed the mainstream public discourse on the abhorrent attacks of 9-11 with the eerie feeling that I was watching a new version of Hamlet where the King of Denmark - the father of Prince Hamlet - dies a natural death. The Prince's enigmatic, even murderous, behavior stems from some strange sickness of his mind. He just hates his noble uncle, Claudius, who succeeds to the throne of Denmark upon his father's death.

Once the perpetrator of a crime has been identified, it is natural for the family of the victim to ask: why? After 9-11, Americans too were asking this and similar questions. 'Why did the 19 Arabs attack us?' 'What was their motive?' 'Why did they take their own lives to inflict death upon us?' 'What did they want from us?' 'What had we done to make them so angry, so suicidal?' The questions could easily take a dangerous turn. They had to be preempted.

Losing no time, on the evening of September 11, President Bush sought to restrict the questioning. "Today," he opened his speech, "our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts." But that was not enough. A few days later, in his speech to the joint session of the Congress, the President fixed the question for Americans. Americans are asking, he told us, 'Why do they hate us?'

This canonical question became the steel frame which has bounded the official, establishment discourse on the etiology of September 11. In this clever formulation, 'they' came to include all Arabs, indeed all Muslims, and 'us' indicated not the US administrations, or their policies towards the Middle East, but Americans, white, Christian and Jewish.

The answer to this question - now narrowed - also had to be fixed, determined for ever. President Bush's speech-writers provided the answer. It was categorical. "They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other." One word, one concept, one condition, one indictment summarized, captured and explained the temperament, the values, the nature and the perverse proclivities of nearly a billion and a half Muslims, with more than fourteen hundred years of history behind them.

On the lofty banner of American hubris, unfurled after the attacks of 9-11, are inscribed in black letters the words, 'The Muslims hate our freedoms.' This is now the accepted, formulaic substitute for all discourse, all questioning and probing into the history of America's relations with the peoples of the Islamicate world over the past 57 years. Three words now have the power to terminate all discourse on 9-11 in mainstream America. 'They hate us.'

The 9-11 Commission website informs us that it was "chartered to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks. (emphases added)." Yet, the 500 page report of the Commission contains not a single mention of any possible connection between 9-11 and US policies towards the Middle East. Presumably, American policies, even when they wreak havoc, are like acts of God. There can be no blowback.

There is a deep irony in all this too. The US administration, led by its neoconservative ideologues, has convinced a majority of Americans that the Muslims attacked their country because they hate freedoms. What then is the remedy the US proposes to combat the 'terrorism' that emanates from the Islamicate world? It proposes to invade and occupy their countries so that US marines can inject the serum of freedom into their moribund bodies. It appears that the Muslims do not hate freedoms per se; they only hate our freedoms because they don't have it. We must conquer them in order to bring this gift to them.

The speed and ease with which President Bush's lies sink into the psyche of so many Americans is truly astounding. To his flock, he is like a Moses bringing divinely inscribed tablets from Mount Sinai. His words, however inarticulate, however disjointed in their logic, however divergent from facts, are the word of God. It appears that 9-11 has turned President Bush into the leader of an American cult.

Is there a cure for this delusion? I will propose a therapy that involves a modest exercise of the imagination. Modest, I emphasize. Not the layered imagination of mystics, not a poet's flight of fancy, or the hallucination of madmen. Just a little pedantic imagination, well within the reach of most ordinary humans willing to exit momentarily from the present into an imagined and imaginary world.

Let America now imagine this. Imagine waking up tomorrow in an upside-down world, one in which the history of America's relations with the Arabs is inverted. Iraq is now the global hegemon, the world's richest democracy, a beacon of freedom; Iraq and the Arab democracies dominate the world and what was once the USA. Imagine that the Arabs have used their power to replace a United States of America with forty-four nominally independent states - with states for native Americans, African-Americans, Asians, Latinos, Italian Americans, German Americans, Anglo-Americans, Jews, Mormons, Sikhs, the Amish, etc - with most of these states run by despotic Iraqi surrogates.

Iraq, after colonizing New England and ethnically cleansing its native inhabitants, has converted it into an exclusive, racist, colonial-settler state for Arabs brought in from Sudan who were dying from a severe drought, the worst in a thousand years. This state, Arabistan, is by far the most powerful of the states on the American continent. It is Iraq's strategic asset in the Americas, periodically mounting incursions against the neighboring states from where the New Englander refugees wage occasional guerilla attacks on Arabistan.

Starting in March 2003, the Iraqi marines, supported by two divisions from Palestine, had invaded and occupied Texas. The Iraqi administration argued that this was a preemptive invasion to prevent the fanatical Texans from developing biological weapons. However, some Arab publications on the Left have argued that the Texan oilfields were Iraq's real target. It is well known that production from the Arab oil fields has been declining since 1997.

What would the Americans, now split, divided, corralled into forty-four racial, ethnic and sectarian states do if they found themselves in such a world? Would they resent the surrogate despotisms that ruled over them with Iraqi arms and money? Would some of their young men, faced with overwhelming Iraqi power, resort to suicidal attacks within Iraq itself? Would they too hate the Iraqis and Arabs and attack them because they are free, prosperous and democratic?

What would the New Englanders do, now scattered in refugee encampments in New York, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio? Would they dream of returning to their country? Would they demand the right to return to their homes in New England? Would they demand compensation for the homes they had lost? Would they hate the Sudanese settlers who now lived in their homes, their towns and cities?

What would all the other Americans do if the New Englanders began to wage a campaign of terror against Iraqi interests in the former USA? What would they do if Arabistan - the Iraqi surrogate - then retaliated by bombing New York, Detroit, Washington and Albany? What would they do if the Iraqi media accused them ad nauseum of hating Iraq's free, open, democratic society?

If only Americans could imagine all this - imagine all this for even a few seconds - how would this change the way they think about what their country, the United States, together with its democratic ally, Israel, have been doing to the Arabs? Can Americans imagine this? What would it do if they could imagine this - even for a few seconds? Would they recognize in their imagined pain, in their imagined humiliation, in the imagined wars and destruction imposed upon them, the real wars, occupations, massacres, ethnic cleansings, tortures, bombings, sanctions and assassinations endured by Palestinians and Iraqis for more than eight decades?

Would they?


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The author of this piece needs to imagine Iraq with Saddam still in power. Would there be an Electronic Iraq? Would he be publishing this garbage on the internet?

I give them credit for one thing: They caught up with the Europeons in record time. Because of America, they can use their freedom to "bite the hand that feeds them."

I don't believe OBL used Israel as an excuse to attack America. At least, not at first. I suppose we need to abandon Israel, allow the slaughter of millions, and convert to an Islamic Theocracy. After we accomplish these lofty goals, we can once again live in peace.

1 posted on 10/23/2004 7:34:17 AM PDT by kddid
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To: kddid
Three words now have the power to terminate all discourse on 9-11 in mainstream America. 'They hate us.'

Yeah. Funny how the wholesale slaughter of 3,000+ innocent non-combatants by a fanatical cabal of amoral, demi-human lizard-things can do that, huh...?

2 posted on 10/23/2004 7:38:43 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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"It's da JOOOOOOOOOOOZ!" *yawn*

I wonder if the author ever considered "They hate us because they turned their countries in hellholes and we didn't, and it's easier to find a scapegoat than fix the problem"? Nahhhhhhhh...


3 posted on 10/23/2004 7:40:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: kddid

As often happens- this fellow has turned logic AND history on their heads- at his request no less- by imagining the UNimaginable.


4 posted on 10/23/2004 7:40:10 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: kddid
Would they recognize in their imagined pain, in their imagined humiliation, in the imagined wars and destruction imposed upon them, the real wars, occupations, massacres, ethnic cleansings, tortures, bombings, sanctions and assassinations endured by Palestinians and Iraqis for more than eight decades?

Run the numbers.

AT LEAST 90% of the above has been inflicted on Arabs by Arabs. Hussein probably killed several times more Iraqi children than the total of Arabs of all ages killed by Israel over 50 years, almost all of whom were soldiers killed in wars started by the Arabs.

The US has killed no more than 25,000(?) Iraqis altogether, again mostly soldiers in combat, and practically no other Arabs at all.

BTW, what a ridiculously convoluted analogy. I lost track of who was supposed to equal whom.

5 posted on 10/23/2004 7:43:42 AM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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To: SE Mom

I hate it when people think too hard, their brains begin to degrade until it starts dieing and turning into a Liberal.


6 posted on 10/23/2004 7:43:52 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: kddid
One word, one concept, one condition, one indictment summarized, captured and explained the temperament, the values, the nature and the perverse proclivities of nearly a billion and a half Muslims

So this writer believes that all Muslims are terrorists? I've never heard our government ever claim this, and in fact have seen it, and our president, go out of its way to say that it is a small group of terrorists which hate our way of life, freedoms, etc.

7 posted on 10/23/2004 7:44:12 AM PDT by Federalist_In_Michigan (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. -RWR)
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To: kddid

BS artists are alike the world over!


8 posted on 10/23/2004 7:44:27 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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To: kddid
Imagine waking up tomorrow in an upside-down world, one in which the history of America's relations with the Arabs is inverted. Iraq is now the global hegemon, the world's richest democracy, a beacon of freedom; Iraq and the Arab democracies dominate the world and what was once the USA.

It's easier to "imagine waking up tomorrow in a world" where house pets are the ruling world power than one where any Arab nation is "a beacon of freedom," quite frankly.

Doesn't this yipyop have a wife he's supposed to be beating today, or something...?

9 posted on 10/23/2004 7:47:50 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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It appears that 9-11 has turned President Bush into the leader of an American cult.

Proud member of the new American cult since 9-11-01...

10 posted on 10/23/2004 7:48:20 AM PDT by Federalist_In_Michigan (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. -RWR)
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This story IS NOT REAL! Islamic Terrorist kill and murder non Muslims because THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM! Palestinians kill Jews because ISLAM DEMANDS IT.
11 posted on 10/23/2004 7:48:52 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("A bad peace is even worse than war" -Taticus)
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I like how he claims that the 9/11 attacks were 'natural causes'..


12 posted on 10/23/2004 7:50:44 AM PDT by Darksheare (Ganags of epopel shall stune your beeber with "UNNNGH!")
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I totally concur. This is likely written by one of the insurgent terrorists. Still, there's this:

Iraq, after colonizing New England and ethnically cleansing its native inhabitants, has converted it into an exclusive, racist, colonial-settler state for Arabs brought in from Sudan who were dying from a severe drought, the worst in a thousand years. This state, Arabistan, is by far the most powerful of the states on the American continent. It is Iraq's strategic asset in the Americas, periodically mounting incursions against the neighboring states from where the New Englander refugees wage occasional guerilla attacks on Arabistan.

The use of the term "ethnically cleansing" is Muslim for "murdering". We have not murdered or "ethically cleansed" Iraq, other than to systematically engage those who want to maintain an environment of hate, murder, oppression and slavery in the name of Allah. In addition, I don't know of any scenario in which refugees from any other country have been forced upon the Iraqis. There have only been the insurgent terrorists from Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya and Saudi Arabia who have forced themselves among the Iraqis whom we liberated from that great humanitarian and compassionate Muslim, Saddam Hussein.

The author is delusional. Take the medicine. It may not taste good now, but it will help you get better.
13 posted on 10/23/2004 7:50:55 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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What would the New Englanders do, now scattered in refugee encampments in New York, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio? Would they dream of returning to their country? Would they demand the right to return to their homes in New England? Would they demand compensation for the homes they had lost? Would they hate the Sudanese settlers who now lived in their homes, their towns and cities?

I'm trying to keep up with who is who in this scenario - is New England supposed to equal Israel? If so, the writer needs to review history a little better; there never has been a country of "Palestine," and the leaders of those who call themselves "Palestinians" have repeatedly turned down any solution that does not include the destruction of Israel - but why saddle yourself with history when all you really want is to further the mantra of "It's all the Americans' and Jews' fault..."

14 posted on 10/23/2004 7:59:18 AM PDT by Federalist_In_Michigan (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap. -RWR)
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"Just a little pedantic imagination"

Indeed. His imagination omits any historic links the Jews have to the middle east, and implies the racial divides and authoritarian governance in that region are entirely the fault of the European colonization and western exploitation. OK, let's assume that we are responsible for the despotic regimes in the Middle East: Consider our action in Afghanistan and Iraq a down payment on our penance. After nearly a century of pouring our money into your region, and 30 years of your cartel on oil, we are now removing your last excuse for the dismal state of affairs over there. No need to thank us, just stop training your children to hate and kill us.


15 posted on 10/23/2004 8:00:11 AM PDT by xlib
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First of all, there is no Palestinian Arab entity. Never was.

http://www.tzemach.org/fyi/docs/speak/nopal.htm

That said, all his other words and illogic are meaningless drivel and blather. Blah, blah, blah...


16 posted on 10/23/2004 8:00:44 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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The author is just being silly. He knows the REAL reason that the terrorists hate us. Listen, it has NOTHING to do with anything he talks about.

In order to answer the question that George Bush posed one has to understand what the Religion-of-Peace says about it: to wit:

Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.’”

Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

Ishaq:326 “Allah said, ‘No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.’ Muhammad said, ‘I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.’”

Ishaq:327 “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

There is More. Much Much More. The reason they hate us is elusively simple and is NOT new to the history of the United States. Recall the Barbary Coast Pirates....

Carry on....

17 posted on 10/23/2004 8:03:58 AM PDT by zchip
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The entire article is amusing, but I really enjoyed this part...

Starting in March 2003, the Iraqi marines, supported by two divisions from Palestine, had invaded and occupied Texas.

LOL!

5.56mm

18 posted on 10/23/2004 8:05:22 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Imagine this - a country where your wife/mother/daughter could be tied up by her hair and raped by a card carrying government sanctioned & licensed professional rapist.

Imagine this - a country where you could be locked for hours or days in a small cement room naked while a grid of pipes randomly dripped one single drop of hydrochloric acid every few minutes; you not knowing where that next drop would come from or if it would burn your flesh, while that same acid built up on the concrete floor to dissolve the skin off your feet.

Imagine having to give up your 12 year old daughter to the clutches of a tyrant (Qusay) so the rest of your family including your younger child could be saved.

Imagine having the happiest day of your life, your wedding, destroyed when the same despots in a drug crazed lust rapes your wife in front of you then shots her in the head (also Qusay)

THIS WAS ALL TRUE UNDER THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME - Please see the History Channels documentary on the subject.

Hatred from the former Iraqi government was derived from personal greed and the USA's impunity to actually stand up for the common people.

Insurgency and fighting continues from personal aspiration to rise to power from the old to the new. (Al Sadr is only 31 - same as Castro was when he took over from Batista)

The USA policy in the middle east is closely tied to oil which has been corrupted by the greed of a few - the old oligarchy.

However, the policy in the middle east is to never again allow the genocide of a people, the Jews, by despotic leader like Hitler who hated people because of what they were no who they were. Just like the extremists of today.
Extremist policy by its very nature is NOT to live in people with people of different ethnicities, beliefs, or religions. Hence the hatred of the Jews, in fighting between Sunni, Shite, & Kurds & by proxy Americans.

Its not the US Army, Navy etc. that anyone who was stupid enough to invade or take over the US should worry about, but rather the 285 million armed people who would never let it get to that point. Of course there are those in this country who would let themselves be subject to such a regime and even forgive those who oppressed them.
19 posted on 10/23/2004 8:11:21 AM PDT by TaxLawyer
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That was the most convoluted thinking I've ever read. Who does this guy think he's fooling??? I can't believe I wasted the last 15 minutes of my life trying figure out what point he was trying to make.

But thanks for posting this, though. It helps to remind me of the folly of circular moral relativism, and the danger it's goofball adherents pose.

20 posted on 10/23/2004 8:28:26 AM PDT by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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