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Last ditch appeal to Libertarians and Constitution voters:
11/1/2004 | agitate

Posted on 11/01/2004 6:34:54 AM PST by Agitate

Is your protest vote worth 4 years of John Kerry? Are you willing to risk appeasing terrorists, sellout to the UN and the EU, more taxes, less for the military, homosexual marriage and activist judges who will be there long after the president is gone, your for vote today?

Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win the final war. Is a vote for a candidate who will not win worth 4 years of Kerry’s extreme liberalism? I hope not.




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; constitution; election; kerry; libertarian; vote
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To: Agitate
I respect the right to vote as one chooses, but this is an EMERGENCY.

Why is every election an emergency?

141 posted on 11/01/2004 6:38:37 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: Agitate

I'm no longer a supporter of the LP, but consider myself a civil libertarian. I was going to sit this one out, knowing Bush will carry my state by large margin, but I'm voting Bush this time just to cancel out the Kerry vote by the Yankee woman across the street from me.


142 posted on 11/01/2004 6:39:28 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Agitate
I hated the amnesty thing too. But what do you think Kerry will do? Protect our borders? Is anything worth having Kerry in office? The man is dangerous.

As I said earlier today, I'm starting to think it'd be easier to force Kerry to fight terrorists that it would be to force Bush to restrain Big Government.

And I absolutely loath Lurch.

143 posted on 11/01/2004 6:40:33 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Commie Basher
Why is every election an emergency?

A good question, and one I've been asking as well. The last one with Aldork was an emergency, this one's an emergency and the next one (with Hillary) will be an emergency, too. And, of course, they're all "the most important election of our lifetime."

When, exactly, do the 'bots plan to put the heat on the Big Government Republican Party? When the economy collapses or Big Stupid Government controls everything?

144 posted on 11/01/2004 6:43:49 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Dog Gone
I'll repeat myself since you are still here:

If my vote is so insignificant then you have nothing to worry about tomorrow right? So why are you wasting your time on a thread topically oriented to convincing third-party voters to support Bush?

145 posted on 11/01/2004 6:45:03 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: Commie Basher
I respect the right to vote as one chooses, but this is an EMERGENCY.

Why is every election an emergency?


Who said every election? Not me.

Back to this topic, keeping the UN out of our business, staying out of the ICC, protecting free speech and the right to bear arms, and standing up for this country without apology constitute an emergency to me. If you don't mind these things, write in the easter bunny.

146 posted on 11/01/2004 6:47:12 PM PST by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: antaresequity
Give me a frigging break....Vote your heart and mind, and if that is Libertarian because your in favor of legalized drugs and gays....go for it

Big Government, lockstep Republicans just hate it when voters vote for candidates that best represent their principles, if said candidate doesn't happen to be a Republican. It's like it shouldn't be permitted, or something.

Of course, if Bush can't persuade enough people to vote for him, it'll be the voters' fault.

147 posted on 11/01/2004 6:48:38 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Just another Joe
This nation is set up with a two party system...that's it!

Only in a parliamentary system does a many party system work.We don't have a parliamentary system,so voting for fringe parties 1)sends NO message 2)doesn't do anything other than make YOU a spoiler 3)serves less than no purpose 4) gives aid and comfort to the party you least want in control.

Faced with the hard,stone cold fact that a vote for a fringe party candidate gives your vote to one of the two major parties,reaped an inarticulate,childish,erroneous BS from you.It's long past time that you wake up and face the fact that that's true.The only BS,is your position.

148 posted on 11/01/2004 6:50:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Hank Rearden
I hated the amnesty thing too. But what do you think Kerry will do? Protect our borders? Is anything worth having Kerry in office? The man is dangerous.

As I said earlier today, I'm starting to think it'd be easier to force Kerry to fight terrorists that it would be to force Bush to restrain Big Government.

And I absolutely loath Lurch.


We agree on the loathe part. However, my view of your first sentence is just the opposite. I don't think Kerry cares one whit about defending America, and I think our chances for smaller gov are much better under Bush than Kerry.
149 posted on 11/01/2004 6:54:31 PM PST by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: rmmcdaniell
I'll repeat myself since you are still here: If my vote is so insignificant then you have nothing to worry about tomorrow right? So why are you wasting your time on a thread topically oriented to convincing third-party voters to support Bush?

Basically because you keep pinging me. I made one post early this morning, but you keep addressing comments to me. You want me off this thread? Fine. Don't reply. Leave me alone and go cast your vote for the loser of your choice.

150 posted on 11/01/2004 6:54:37 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Agitate

If Bush loses, it will not be because any third party "drained" votes from him.

90 million people didn't vote in the last election. Compare that to the 1 million Libertarian voters. If Bush pushed Libertarian ideals, or took any third party issue and made it his own...If he had a genuine interest in reducing government power (rather than growing government at 13% a year), he would blow Kerry out of the water. People who loathe the big government we've been getting under democrats and republicans would finally have a reason to vote FOR him...and they would.

The sad fact is Bush hasn't demonstrated any interest in reducing the size of government. On the campaign trail, he has actually bragging about how much he has increased it's with his new $600 billion medicare entitlement and other massive spending bills.

If a principled conservative can't vote for Bush this year, it really hasn't cost Bush anything. Bush has simply failed to EARN that person's vote, and never really had it in the first place.


151 posted on 11/01/2004 6:56:16 PM PST by Capitalism2003 (America is too great for small dreams. - Ronald Reagan, speech to Congress. January 1, 1984.)
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To: Agitate
I voted, proudly, last time for Howard Phillips.

This time.....my answer is Here...."Confessions of a"Bush-Basher"---"The Neccesity of Re-Electing the President"

redrock

152 posted on 11/01/2004 6:57:11 PM PST by redrock (John Kerry....a reincarnation of Benedict Arnold????)
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To: Capitalism2003

BS these third party types do vote and can enable Democrats. Can't get any worse than that.


153 posted on 11/01/2004 6:59:14 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Capitalism2003
I don't disagree with your points about Bush, and I wouldn't it on any group if he doesn't win. I just truely fear a Kerry Presidency.
154 posted on 11/01/2004 6:59:26 PM PST by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: Agitate
I will add this: the "Constitution" party is really the Peroutka Party. He would give himself sole authority to interpret the Constitution. Whenever a judge ruled some way he didn't like, he would ignore the court's ruling (as he's said he would do in the cases of abortion or gay marriage).

He's talking about throwing away our legal system as we know it now (common law + Constitutional interpretation) and replacing it with his whims and his interpretation of the Bible, which he says is the real source of the law. Do you really want to cast a vote for a theocrat? Don't be a friggin' moron. Don't vote for Peroutka. Have a little respect for the Constitution (even if it means you don't get to cast the purest pro-life vote possible).

155 posted on 11/01/2004 7:00:04 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: redrock

Good For You


156 posted on 11/01/2004 7:01:17 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rmmcdaniell
Not only will you not be happy no matter who is elected tomorrow,you will NEVER be happy with any elected president, for as long as you love!

And...you are NOT preventing Hillary being elected in '08.In fact,you are doing less than nothing to stop her.

You don't understand anything at all about politics.It's all just emotion,on your part.

157 posted on 11/01/2004 7:02:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Agitate
I don't think Kerry cares one whit about defending America, and I think our chances for smaller gov are much better under Bush than Kerry.

Bush has already proven he's not interested in smaller government. He's not even really interested in tax cuts, because his "tax cuts" without corresponding reductions in spending are just future taxes, with interest, piled onto our backs in debt.

As for Lurch, if he's elected he'll swear an oath to defend the Constitution and the country against all enemies foreign and domestic. If he doesn't he'll be impeached and removed swiftly; the country is united against the murdering Moos.

That's why I'm thinking it'll be easier to force Kerry to fight terrorists than to force Bush to slash government.

158 posted on 11/01/2004 7:03:10 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: redrock
I voted, proudly, last time for Howard Phillips. This time.....my answer is Here...."

Confessions of a"Bush-Basher"---"The Neccesity of Re-Electing the President"

redrock


Wow...excellent post, I hope everybody reads it.

Did Bush really try to say Ted Kennedy was a decent man? That's why I don't watch political speeches. Kennedy decent is like saying "Islam is a religon of peace..." I cringed when Bush said that one too.

159 posted on 11/01/2004 7:06:22 PM PST by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: Protagoras

(Hating your government doesn't make you a citizen with solutions.) ...just another braying whiner lost in (cyber) space.


160 posted on 11/01/2004 7:07:23 PM PST by SunnySide
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