Priority 1: Remove Specter from the Judciary (Day 2)

We the floor vote comes one is enough.

I am thinking in terms of getting them out of committee.
THAT can be a hang up.
I just hope the committee GOP senators are conservatives,
unlike the Maine senators etc.

I'm going to have to call them back and ask "what rule"? See post above.

Is there a good link to PA election results? I'd like to see how many Bush supporters turned their backs on Specter.

About 133,000 voted Clymer, some voted for Hoeffel just to get Specter out. But the majority voted straight party, if you can call him in the party.

Another problem is that Frist is milktoast.

We need a skull crusher in charge. How can we push aside (hard) Spincter and that phoney from Utah?

Maybe Bush said something like 'Arlene, I will campaign for you but you have to push my nominees to the floor for a vote. Deal?'

I would have, wouldn't you?

Standard reply.. "I have received your email.. blah blah..."

How does it feel to be yanked by CNN?

Maybe Bush said something like 'Arlene, I will campaign for you but you have to push my nominees to the floor for a vote. Deal?'

I would have, wouldn't you?

You don't know Specter too well. That is like asking Sadaam to never use WMDs again.

Maybe Bush said something like 'Arlene, I will campaign for you but you have to push my nominees to the floor for a vote. Deal?'

I would have, wouldn't you?

You don't know Specter too well. That is like asking Sadaam to never use WMDs again. He's a snake.

BTTT!!

Ping for phone number bookmark.

Call Frist's office right now. Nashville office of Senator Frist 615-352-9411 Washington Office is a voice mail 1-202-224-3344 (fax in WA. is 202-228-1264)

If the MSM can plant the story, foster the lie that the conservatives are trying to get the people to do something the public is not prepared for, they got us -- again.

So, maybe the thing to do is work on this thing "behind the scenes" as in "WRITE YOUR SENATOR, FRIST, ETC" but don't make a big public display about it.

If, due to circumstances unknown to the public, Specter decides to "pursue other interests" the MSM will only have a conspiracy theory -at best- to pursue.

Personally, I think that any senator coming out and stating that he will personally ensure that his party is unsuccessful on *any* endeavor, is due for a whoopin by the leadership. Whether it be RVW or drilling in ANWR, it is not proper for a member of a party to say they will personally disrupt the party's objectives.

I am not blaming You there in the state.........I'm blaming the state. Too many liberal sellouts, Rhinos, idiots or what have you. You have to face it, your state chose Kerry.
Fraudulently or non fraudulently it chose Kerry. A fitting response would be to sack Spector. That's all I'm saying.
I know how you feel though. We in SD have had to endure the fact that our state kept electing Daschle.

SPECTER COMMENTS ON THE JUDICIAL CONFIRMATION PROCESS Washington, D.C. - Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA) made the following comments today on the judicial confirmation process. “Contrary to press accounts, I did not warn the President about anything and was very respectful of his Constitutional authority on the appointment of federal judges. “As the record shows, I have supported every one of President Bush’s nominees in the Judiciary Committee and on the Senate floor. I have never and would never apply any litmus test on the abortion issue and, as the record shows, I have voted to confirm Chief Justice Rehnquist, Justice O’Connor, and Justice Kennedy and led the fight to confirm Justice Thomas. “I have already sponsored a protocol calling for a Judiciary Committee hearing within thirty days of a nomination, a vote out of Committee thirty days later, and floor action thirty days after that. I am committed to such prompt action by the Committee on all of President Bush’s nominees. “In light of the repeated filibusters by the Democrats in the last Senate session, I am concerned about a potential repetition of such filibusters. I expect to work well with President Bush in the judicial confirmation process in the years ahead.” In other words if The DEMOCRATS dont like the JUDGE then "Chairman" Specter will block the nomination in order to avoid the "filibuster"... I say filibuster for the next four years if thats what it takes to get a vote on President Bush's nominations ..

Another article about Specter's possible appointment to Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and why that would be a bad thing. This one is from 26 December 2003 and it was in the Washington Times:

Conservatives work to deflect Specter

By Charles Hurt
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Sen. Arlen Specter's prospects of becoming chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee if he wins a fourth Senate term in Pennsylvania is making him a target of some conservatives.
"You put a person like that in charge of the Judiciary Committee, and we won't see many of President Bush's nominees get through," says Connie Mackey of the Family Research Council. "With regard to social issues, he is a poster child of NARAL and NOW."
NARAL Pro-Choice America, formerly the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League, and the National Organization for Women are two leading abortion-rights groups and vigorously lobby the Judiciary Committee to defeat conservative judicial nominees.
Because of Republican-imposed term limits on chairmanships, Sen. Orrin G. Hatch of Utah is expected to relinquish his committee position after the 2004 elections. Based on seniority, Mr. Specter is the next Republican in line. He will inherit a deeply divided committee, which is the venue of some of the Senate's most bitter, partisan fights over issues such as abortion and homosexual "marriage."
Mr. Specter, who favors abortion rights, publicly has expressed reservations about several of Mr. Bush's judicial nominees and, according to some Republicans, has worked behind the scenes to block others. And some Republicans never have forgiven Mr. Specter for his opposition to President Reagan's nomination of Judge Robert Bork to the Supreme Court.
"It will be just awful," says one Republican member of the Judiciary Committee. "Arlen will go off with [Democrats´] agenda more often than he'll go with ours. Many of President Bush's nominees just won't get through."
It's an issue that Mr. Specter's Republican primary opponent, Rep. Patrick J. Toomey, has seized on to raise money outside of Pennsylvania.
"Republicans recognize that Arlen Specter has spent his career obstructing everything Republicans stand for," Mr. Toomey said last week on his way to a fund-raiser in New York City. "But the most palpable fear among Republicans is what would happen if Arlen Specter is re-elected and becomes the next chairman of the Judiciary Committee. It's a frightening prospect."
Sen. Charles E. Schumer, a Democrat on the Judiciary Committee from New York, last summer suggested that Mr. Bush break the impasse over his judicial nominations by nominating Mr. Specter to the federal courts. Mr. Specter, he said, would get unanimous support from Democrats.
Ralph G. Neas, president of the liberal People for the American Way, says Mr. Specter once was known as an "independent Republican," but in recent years has become "an increasingly reliable vote for Republicans." Asked whether his group would support a Specter nomination, Mr. Neas paused, and declined to say.
"Senator Specter is not here to be a rubber stamp," Specter spokesman Bill Reynolds says. "He's going to look at the record of each nominee."
But he noted that Mr. Specter has not cast a vote against a single Bush nominee.
"There's a lot of rhetoric out there," Mr. Reynolds says. "But just look at what President Bush has to say about Senator Specter."
Mr. Bush, who has named Mr. Specter as one of the state chairmen for his re-election campaign, said recently: "I look forward to working with him as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee in the United States Senate to make sure my judges get through and appointed."
Republican strategists say Mr. Bush doesn't want to upset what in the past has been a comfortable Republican seat. In 1998, Mr. Specter won re-election with 61 percent of the vote — much of that support coming from Democrats and independents supportive of abortion rights. Pennsylvania casts 21 votes in the Electoral College, and only four states have greater weight there.
Some Republican strategists say a liberal Republican such as Mr. Specter, who appeals to Democrats and others, can attract independents and Democrats to the Republican ticket, while a conservative Republican such as Mr. Toomey cannot.

So, maybe the thing to do is work on this thing "behind the scenes" as in "WRITE YOUR SENATOR, FRIST, ETC" but don't make a big public display about it.

Organizing activism on a conservative internet forum is not "making a big public display about it."

Does anyone have a transcript of Specter's victory speech after he was announced the winner?

I'd like to have a copy of it. Also, we need to get a copy of it to Frist and ask him if this is the kind of guy you want in the number two position in the Senate. There is no doubt that we will be naming some SC justices in this term and we want the BEST man possible in the catbird's seat. This is too important of a position to fill based on some archaic unwritten customs.

Another Article - this one again from The Washington Times and it is dated 18 November 2003:

The Specter problem

By Timothy P. Carney
The 30-hour marathon in the Senate last week did not get a single judge confirmed or even sway one Democrat to drop his filibuster vote against a Bush nominee. Republican Senate staffers will admit privately that the debate, while incapable of moving the hardened hearts of Senate Democrats, is aimed at swaying voters.
Specifically, the Republican Party hopes the spectacle will make the conservative base realize that judges are important, and President Bush's nominees cannot get fair treatment in the Senate as long as there are 48 Democrats (plus liberal independent Jim Jeffords there).
The task force managing the debate includes freshman Republican Sens. Jim Talent of Missouri, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia and Norm Coleman of Minnesota. Exit polling in all three states last year showed that these men, all anti-abortion, won on the strength of voters who identified abortion as their most important issue.
The judge debate is now, and has been for the past 30 years, about Roe vs. Wade. Democrats are not allowed to run for president, unless they worship at the altar of NARAL — see flips by Joe Lieberman, Dick Gephardt and Dennis Kucinich for cases in point.
The show on the Senate floor was about both parties sending a message back home to their bases: For our side to win on abortion, it is critical you elect more of us to the Senate.
This brings us to a fact troubling for pro-lifers: Expanding the Republican majority in the Senate and re-electing Mr. Bush still leaves the confirmation process in the hands of the pro-Roe forces — specifically, in the hands of Arlen Specter.
Mr. Specter is in line to chair the Judiciary Committee after the 2004 elections. The current chairman, Sen. Orrin Hatch, Utah Republican, must surrender the gavel because of GOP term-limits on committee heads. Sen. Chuck Grassley, Iowa Republican, is second in seniority on the panel, but he runs the Finance Committee, and his staff has said he will not give up that panel for the Judiciary chairmanship.
Next in line is Arlen Specter. Mr. Specter is well-known in Washington as a liberal Republican with a long record of derailing tax cuts, shilling for Big Labor and acquitting President Bill Clinton (citing ancient Scottish Common Law principles). To be sure, his record has improved this year in the light of a primary challenge from the right.
With the manifest importance of judges and Roe, Mr. Specter's record on that issue deserves examination. Mr. Specter this year, as he has in the past, voted for a resolution by Sen. Tom Harkin, Iowa Democrat, declaring that Roe vs. Wade was correctly decided and "should not be overturned."
Even pro-abortion legal scholars agree that Roe was jurisprudentially unsound. Yet, Mr. Specter repeatedly goes on record supporting it. If a Supreme Court vacancy occurred, the White House would have a hard time confidently putting up any judge who disagreed with Mr. Specter — meaning we would get another Justice Souter.
There should be no doubt about Mr. Specter's willingness to derail conservative Supreme Court nominees. "To Bork" is now a verb in Washington thanks, in part, to Mr. Specter, who played a central role in sinking Robert Bork's nomination. The Senator from Scotland, as Hill staffers refer to him, explained in his memoirs that "Bork's narrow approach is dangerous for constitutional government." Mr. Bork, he argued, failed to grasp that the Constitution is "a living, growing document, responsive to the needs of the nation."
In other words, Mr. Bork's sin was that he believed in strict interpretation of the Constitution.
But there are at least four ways to keep the Judiciary gavel out of Mr. Specter's hands. The first is for Pennsylvania's Republican voters to discard Mr. Specter for conservative Rep. Pat Toomey in the April 27 Senate primary.
Many Republicans object that Mr. Toomey, unlike Mr. Specter, would be vulnerable in November, running the risk of giving a seat to the Democrats. Such "lesser-of-two-evils" calculus (arguing that Mr. Specter is better than a Democrat) may have time and a place, but it's not here.
With four and maybe five Democratic senators in the South retiring, Republican control of the upper chamber is nearly guaranteed next year. Even if Mr. Toomey were a guaranteed loser in a general election, the pro-life cause would benefit from a Specter loss.
If the choice is between 52 GOP senators with a Judiciary Chairman Specter as opposed to 51 Republicans and Chairman Jon Kyl, Arizona Republican, the decision to get rid of Mr. Specter should be a no-brainer for pro-life voters.
But even if Mr. Specter is re-elected, there are ways to block his ascension to Judiciary Chairman.
Mr. Grassley could sacrifice his control over Finance and run Judiciary instead.
The Senate GOP leadership could buy off Mr. Specter, giving him other committee chairmanships, his choice of office, or undivided support in April, as long as he passes up the Judiciary gavel.
Also, the GOP conference could buck custom and tradition, ignore seniority, and skip Mr. Specter for Mr. Kyl.
Finally, given that Mr. Hatch has been unable to do his work thanks to unprecedented filibusters, waive his term limits.
None of these measures would be easy. Any would take courage by the Senate GOP leadership. But Roe vs. Wade is not simply a matter of constitutional integrity. It is, very literally, a matter of life and death. Such a matter cannot be left in Arlen Specter's hands.
Timothy P. Carney is a reporter for the Evans-Novak Political Report.

I am not blaming You there in the state.........I'm blaming the state. Too many liberal sellouts, Rhinos, idiots or what have you. You have to face it, your state chose Kerry. Fraudulently or non fraudulently it chose Kerry. A fitting response would be to sack Spector. That's all I'm saying. I know how you feel though. We in SD have had to endure the fact that our state kept electing Daschle.

Believe me the conservatives here in PA tried to do away with Specter and we nearly did it. Pat Toomey almost won the primary with very little money and without the support of Bush and Santorum. Bush and Santorum were able to get enough Republicans to hold their noses and vote for Toomey. They weren't willing to take the risk of loosing another Senate seat and to a degree you could hardly blame them given that few thought that we would actually gain five seats. Some Republicans, including myself were willing to take that risk to get rid of Specter.

With the benefit of hindsight, I think that if you asked most conservative Republicans in PA, I think you would find that many of those who voted for Specter rather than Toomey would like to take their vote back and risk that Toomey might not beat Hoffel.

As it is, we have a greater majority in the Senate but we have to decide whether we can risk having a self described moderate and proponent of Roe v. Wade as the head of the judiciary committee. Personally, I think this needs to be avoided at all costs.