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Who Were the Greatest Military Commanders (Of All Time) ?

Posted on 11/14/2004 5:23:06 PM PST by Cyropaedia

In light of the upcoming film Alexander (the Great), who in your opinion were actually the greatest military commanders our world has known...?

Mine are Genghis Khan, Alexander, and U.S. Grant.


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To: Cyropaedia

Scipio Africanus, Gen. Pershing, Gen. Washington


141 posted on 11/14/2004 5:49:57 PM PST by everitt12
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To: FreedomCalls

142 posted on 11/14/2004 5:50:34 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Alouette

Dayan was brilliant in '67, but was wobbly in '73 as Meir's defense minister. Sharon argued crossing the Suez over Meir and Dayan's objections. Sharon eventually got his way and brought his tanks and troops within 50 miles of Cairo until the Soviets and Americans pressured Israel to halt. The entire Egyptian 3rd Army was surrounded at the time.


143 posted on 11/14/2004 5:50:36 PM PST by HockeyPop
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To: Fiddlstix

Had to bust your chops just a "little" bro....:)
Especially being from just North of your city (Conroe) :)


144 posted on 11/14/2004 5:50:47 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: Alouette
What about General Arial Sharon's crossing of the Suez and dagger thrust towards Cairo? He was only stopped at US insistence.
145 posted on 11/14/2004 5:51:31 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: John Felix
Dammit, John, Hornblower is fictional.

He was based more or less on Lord Cochrane with some Sir James Gordon thrown in. Not as dashing as Lord Nelson but probably better naval commanders . ..

My vote's got to be for N.B. Forrest. He was way ahead of his time, a quarrelsome fellow and (as my grandmother said) somebody you could not POSSIBLY ask to dinner! But the best cavalryman of the war.

146 posted on 11/14/2004 5:51:54 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Cyropaedia

George Washington, hands down.


147 posted on 11/14/2004 5:51:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Rastus
Benedict Arnold did a marvelous job until he turned traitor.

So did kerry ;)

148 posted on 11/14/2004 5:52:11 PM PST by ChadGore (60,724,666 Bush fans can't be wrong.)
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To: LibFreeUSA

I wonder how history would have changed if Patton's superiors had listened to him & taken his advice when he mention the fact that he didn't trust the Russians one bit, & if he had never slapped that soldier.

Do you think we could have beaten the commies while we were in Europe, @ a time BEFORE they had the bomb?


149 posted on 11/14/2004 5:52:18 PM PST by libertyman
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To: Cyropaedia

Scipio Africanus. See Liddell Hart's biography of him, arguing that Scipio was the great captain who defeated one of the great captains of all time.


150 posted on 11/14/2004 5:52:45 PM PST by omega4412
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To: Blood of Tyrants; wagglebee
The Rothschilds backed the Confederacy.

They lost millions.

151 posted on 11/14/2004 5:53:03 PM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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To: Cyropaedia

That's my take as well.

RE Lee was a great leader, but he didn't have the infrastructure or logictics to defeat the Union.


152 posted on 11/14/2004 5:53:30 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: asgardshill
Good point. That was one of them Zhukov.

Hey, they might have been bastards but it doesn't make them weak fighters.

Arioch7 out.

153 posted on 11/14/2004 5:53:54 PM PST by Arioch7
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To: Defiant

I think that Sherman's pillaging of the South was contemptuous and dishonorable. That's not something you do to your own people, even if they were rebels.

Guderian was a great general, I agree. In my opinion, he was on par with Rommel - if not, above him. Funny that he is now widely overlooked in military history.


154 posted on 11/14/2004 5:53:58 PM PST by Norman Bates (Game over. Bush wins.)
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To: DixieOklahoma
What about the slave holding states like maryland, etc that were part of the Union????

Maryland was forcibly held in the Union by the Union. If left unfettered it would have seceded and most of the population of Maryland wished to secede. Far more Marylanders fought for the Confederacy than fought for the Union.

155 posted on 11/14/2004 5:54:10 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: JBlain
King Leonidias of Sparta

You are correct, those spartans were some tough fighters... Those 300 WANTED to fight the 300,000 enemy soldiers. And they held out for what was it? 7 days? Or was it more I can't remember.
156 posted on 11/14/2004 5:54:20 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Stop specter vision! Keep specter out! Just say NO to specter!)
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To: Cyropaedia

Robert E Lee. Why? His men not only fought for honor, duty and country, but fought for the sheer love and respect they had for the man.


157 posted on 11/14/2004 5:54:31 PM PST by HockeyPop
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To: TexConfederate1861

Henry V of England at Agincourt


158 posted on 11/14/2004 5:54:32 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

No.

The Pres. is C-in-C. The military must follow his orders or depose him in a coup d'etat.


159 posted on 11/14/2004 5:54:39 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Cyropaedia

Since the earliest days of statehood, Texans have answered the call of duty to defend the United States and protect its interests. From the War with Mexico to the current conflict in the Balkans, the Lone Star State has produced its share of military heroes, none more celebrated and decorated than Audie Leon Murphy.

Born June 20, 1924 near Kingston in Hunt County, Murphy was the son of poor tenant farmers. As a boy, he learned to hunt to put food on the family table. He became an expert shot, a skill that would help him later in life. Shortly after his 18th birthday, Murphy enlisted in the Army. Assigned to Company B, 15th Regiment, Third Infantry Division, he took part in the invasions of Sicily and southern France, earning a Bronze Star Medal, a Silver Star and the Distinguished Service Cross for his bravery in battle.

Murphy quickly rose through the ranks, progressing from private to second lieutenant by the end of 1944. In late January of 1945, German infantry and tanks attacked his company near Holtzwihr, in northeast France. Murphy ordered his men to fall back while he remained at a forward command post calling in fire instructions to his artillery. As the enemy closed in on him, Murphy climbed aboard a burning tank destroyer and used its .50-caliber machine gun against them. He was alone, atop a vehicle that could have exploded at any moment, but his constant fire caused the enemy attack to falter. Ignoring a leg wound, Murphy continued shooting until his ammunition ran out. He then made his way to his company, refused medical attention and organized a counterattack that forced the Germans to withdraw. For this amazing act of heroism, Murphy was awarded the Medal of Honor. In all, he received more than 30 medals – including three Purple Hearts and the Croix de Guerre of both Belgium and France – making him the most decorated American combat soldier of World War II.

After his discharge, Murphy continued to serve his state and country, rising to the rank of major in the Texas National Guard and the U.S. Army Reserves. His memoirs, To Hell and Back (1949) became a best seller. Murphy’s hero status and boyish good looks led to a career in Hollywood, where he made more than 40 films, most notably The Red Badge of Courage (1951) and the film version of To Hell and Back (1955). He died in a plane crash in 1971 and was buried with full military honors at Arlington National Cemetery.

On what would have been his 75th birthday, I encourage all Texans to honor the memory of Audie Murphy. His character and courage represent the best our state has to offer, and he remains a hero and an inspiration to us all.

Therefore, I, George W. Bush, Governor of Texas, do hereby declare June 20, 1999,

AUDIE MURPHY DAY

in Texas, and urge the appropriate
recognition whereof.
 
In official recognition whereof,
I hereby affix my signature this
9th day of June, 1999.


160 posted on 11/14/2004 5:55:01 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (FEEL THE BURN *******SIZZLE SIZZLE*********)
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