Skip to comments.How can we contact the US military to demand the end of the embedding of reporters? (vanity)
Posted on 11/15/2004 6:04:00 PM PST by Trippin
Subject says it all. I believe that there are pro's to the embedding process, but if so many reporters are practically praying for atrocities to be committed by US troops, or hoping the Iraq war will fail, I think it is a DANGER to the troops to send the reporters with them on their missions.
As we have seen, a Marine is now being accused of a war crime for shooting an unarmed insurgent. However, it is pretty clear that the Marine was not aware of the fact that the man was injured, and given the fact that insurgents routinely fake death or injury to lure soldiers into a booby trap, I think it is a complete outrage the way the US media is handling this. This only insites more hatred and violence towrds our troops, even as they are fighting tooth and nail in Iraq.
In my opinion, the embedding process only affors the media more opportunities to villify the troops, since it is clear that practically none of the reporters embedded with the troops are prepared to report on acts of heroism.
I say we demand the embedding process to be ended, NOW!
It made me sick watching this report. It was worded that the Marine acted inappropriately and that the reporter himself determined the terrorist wasn't armed or a threat.
Not to worry..unless there was some blatant execution the marine will be treated justly.
I hope this ratfink imbed got his microphone shoved where the sun never shines by these Marines.
Nonetheless, the Marine is, in my opinion, unjustly being accused of a crime he may not have committed, all in the name of what? Ratings? This type of reporting only endangers the lives of all the soldiers over there because it makes them appear as heartless brutes. That's my biggest concern.
I say we all donate to Free Republic in order to hire a full time FReeper reporter to embed with the troops instead.
I think that we all need to proceed calmly on this story. Every time our country takes decisive military action the MSM finds one unfavorable incident (real or falsified) and uses it in an attempt to discredit our forces. Wedding parties massacred, precious relics looted, women's underwear misapplied, etc. After three solid years of this the American people voted solidly to stay the course behind our brave warriors and their Commander in Chief. This little kerfuffle will be no different. Steady on, FReepers!
CNN, NBC kept on playing this story. Why didnt they show the beheading videos? What about the 4 US contractors stung up in Falluja? What about the terrorists playing dead and then trying to shoot US troops? IMHO this Marine considers this terrorist as a threat and shot him. End of story. This is war. Call your Senator to voice your support for this Marine.
This reporter better keep his head down....I mean the fog of war and all.
I am believing that the young marine believed fully that the "insurgents" were all confirmed dead. Logically that was the only reason they would have been left unguarded.
When he saw one of the confirmed dead move, he believed the mover had been faking being dead and was going to do the marines (or the embedded photog) immediate severe, lethal harm.
That's the way I saw it.
..and your concern is understandable and well justified.
ON balance though, the imbeds have been far more advantageous to telling the truth than disadvantageous.
Remember the saying "the ticks have gone injun".
This infuriates me! Should he have waited to see if he had a hand grenade hidden under him and have some of our guys blown up? I hope that reporter doesn't need a Marine to save his sorry ass! Why are there so many out there trying to dishonor our troops? Always looking for anything to bring them and the U.S. down. I am so mad I can't hardly type. Phooey!
I agree, sometimes we are provided with too much information, pull the reporters out of the war zone, let the troops do what is necessary without the steely eyes of the bleeding heart libs peering over their shoulder watching and questioning their every move. I bet if we do that the war will be fought as it should, ended more quickly and Victory will be ours.
The dude kept saying he wasn't dead...but you know how those Iraqis lie. No problemo!
Ollie North is fixing to give his assessement on Hannity and that other guy. (FOX)
And that is exactly what happened. It is obvious the Marine thought the wounded man was a threat, and under the circumstances reacted normally.
Maybe he was pulling the pin on a grenade.
Certainly we'd like to see the video of the >10 minutes leading up to this event, this Jihadi's record, and the other situational details.
I agree, Kevin Sites is a disgrace. He should probably leave Iraq for his own good.
"Many good stories--including the discovery of the slaughter and torture houses in Falluja--would not have been told if it hadn't been for the imbeds."
Are they being told? It seems to me that they're being buried.
I resent that this is happening. Our media is so damn dangerous. Soldiers will die because of this bullcrap.
That's the way I interpret this too. Perfectly rational behaviour given the circumstances, now turned into a war crime! I'm sorry, but I'm really ticked off by this. It simply isn't right for the MSM to unfairly play, judge, jury, and executioner when there are so many soldiers fighting their hearts out over there.
Certainly they've been told, otherwise we wouldn't know about them, now, would we?
No they haven't been told. We know about it. Do the Kerry voters know? The media hasn't trumpeted it at all. We've learned about it through the conservative media.
that reporter should've kept his mouth shut
now this bs is going to be played all over the middle east
especially on al jazeera
"Actually, I think it was a good idea to imbed the reporters. Many good stories--including the discovery of the slaughter and torture houses in Falluja--would not have been told if it hadn't been for the imbeds."
But surely the reporters can be driven to these sites from a central location to report on it. Why do they have to be embedded with an actual fighting unit? I agree that sometimes you get a really good report that actually describes exactly what happened at a particular event. But too many times now have I seen reporters injecting their opinion into their reporting, and that opinion is almost always slanted against the soldiers.
I'm just sick of it.
Or what about the footage of people jumping from a thousand feet to escape flames for the hard sudden feel of the concrete below. Odd how the MSM chooses its' atrocities....
This reporter better keep his head down....I mean the fog of war and all.
Yep - accidents can happen . . . . oops! Too bad about what hapened to that embed!!!!!
If you listen to the audio, its oblivious to me that this Marine thought that this terrorist was a threat. The Marines thought they could trust the NBC reporter. This was a big mistake. To me this NBC reporter is a Quisling.
Another e-mail address for the NBC traitor:
And I'm too sick to even type.
Sure will cause other deaths of ours because they'll have to think like cops instead of war!!!
If you can't expect professional unbiased reporting, then don't embed the reporters with a fighting unit. Not only do the soldiers have one more guy to worry about, but they also have to endure propaganda from the guy they are protecting.
Unless the quality of reporting improves, I think it's time to end the practice of embedding. The reporting is so one sided, that I believe it threatens the lives of the soldiers in Iraq.
To me, embedding reporters, as a concept, is fine, but not at the cost of increasing the threat to the soldiers. They don't deserve this.
Please. Has it gotten anywhere the play that this story has?
So the Right has learned of the execution chambers (BFD), now all of America is being told that our guys are executioners.
To avoid the ubiquity of the latter, I'd gladly give up the former.
I agree. I sure that's what the marines told the reporter. Being embedded with the marines,being shot at together and seeing how the terrorists try to trick US troops by playing dead for instance, the marines thought they could trust the reporter. Unfortunately, they were sadly wrong. This reporter to me is a Quisling.
All the Marines have to do is tell the reporter, "Okay, all is clear, you can come out in the open now.." Bang, one less stooly. End of problem.
The media guy from NBC better watch his back. If that was my kid he was putting at greater risk so he could get a friggin Pulitzer, he'd be in serious trouble.
Maybe it makes me a totalitarian a-hole, but I agree with you 100%.
You're right. And that reporter should rot in Hell for this episode.
I disagree. On the whole, the embedding concept has given a great many softie leftist reporters a taste for what the American Fighting Man is all about. I've seen several cases of reporters gaining a whole new respect for our military and the professionalism that they exude on a day to day basis.
I trust the American Fighting Man to look good, even on camera. If this kind of weak, lame story is the best they can come up with as some sort of "example" of alleged bad behavior... then it says volumes. I say keep the embeds.
The Marine didn't do anything wrong.The filthy terrorist wouldn't open his eyes and seemed to be playing some sort of game.I don't know why the Marines are trusting the reporters enough to let them see everything.If they try to fry these guys we should raise hell over it.
"Not only do the soldiers have one more guy to worry about"
I suspect they won't be worrying about the safety of reporters anymore. To Hell with the media rats.
Re: This reporter to me is a Quisling.
IMHO - the reporter saw it differently, apparently.
He had to report it if he believed a summary execution had taken place. Combat folks can't summarily take out a wounded, unarmed combatant. Marines know better. That's why it must have been that the situation was seen as life threatening by the marine who shot the wounded combatant.
It is better to have them there, the terrorists can make up any story they want and there would be no one other than the miitary to dispute the charges.
The network news isn't showing the shot he made. They say it's too graphic. Well guess what MSM, WAR is GRAPHIC. If you can't cover it with out going into hysterics over something you don't fully understand then get out. Just don't drag our men down because you can't handle the GRAPHICS
Our troops will learn the lesson we learned in previous wars: You can never trust a journalist to give a fair accounting of anything he sees or hears. A journalist will arrive on the scene with a preconceived and biased agenda and will look for and report only those things that support his agenda. Never talk to a journalist. They will take your words and reconstruct them out of context to appear to support whatever agenda they are pushing. Never let them see you operate, as they will only video those things that will, when taken out of context, embarrass you, your unit, and your country.
How can you prevent embedded reporters from accompanying combat operations? If liberal-left journalists have frequent and unexplained accidents while accompanying your operations, they will no longer want to accompany them. Not only are liberal-left journalists liars, they are also cowards.