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Artest fight, need FR help (vanity
11/22/04 | Josh in PA

Posted on 11/22/2004 7:00:52 AM PST by Josh in PA

Can anyone here find a link/article to where it says Artest hit the wrong fan, and the guy he went after wasn't the one who threw the beer?

Thanks


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1 posted on 11/22/2004 7:00:52 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=pacers


2 posted on 11/22/2004 7:01:32 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Josh in PA

Don't know if it's been published yet but it was on ESPN. They iterviewed a guy who was trying to hold Artest back who had seen who threw it and knew it wasn't the guy Artest was beating on.

He in fact said that as Artest was hitting the guy he was yelling "Was it you?"


3 posted on 11/22/2004 7:02:58 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Josh in PA

Artest his A fan period.


4 posted on 11/22/2004 7:06:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: Josh in PA
Jim Gray on ESPN the following morning stated it was the white guy in the blue Wallace shirt with the white baseball cap. However, from looking at the replays it seems clear it doesn't come from his direction either.

So in addition to all of the lawsuits fans will be filing we can add one against ESPN for slander too.

5 posted on 11/22/2004 7:08:09 AM PST by The G Man (The "Red States" ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: The G Man


I was just wondering, because I'm listening to Mike Gallagher and he's making me sick.

Apparently he thinks it's okay to just go swinging punches at every innoncent fan in the crowd.


6 posted on 11/22/2004 7:10:08 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: Josh in PA

Sorry no link but I believe I heard Brian Kilmeade (sp) mention exactly that on Fox & Friends this morning.


8 posted on 11/22/2004 7:12:30 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Josh in PA

Sales of Artest's rap album are going to be through the roof.


9 posted on 11/22/2004 7:13:51 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Baynative

Yeah. White guys other than the refs will finally be getting paid by the NBA again.


10 posted on 11/22/2004 7:14:34 AM PST by timtoews5292004
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To: timtoews5292004

Artest will definitely get the time off to promote his album now, just like he wanted.


11 posted on 11/22/2004 7:15:16 AM PST by timtoews5292004
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To: Josh in PA

Read that in this mornings "comPost"...I think it was in the Wilbon column.


12 posted on 11/22/2004 7:15:26 AM PST by W.Lee
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To: cripplecreek

When I was young and growing up, basketb all players were the most educated and polite athletes.

Now they are worse than hockey players for thuggery, violence and crudity.

My daughter saw the pics of Jakcson, Arteste and Wallace and asked why those 'Joaners' were on TV. She said you can always tell a joaner by their constant scowl unless authorities are considering punishing them, then they play the 'I'm an innocent by-stander' card, and then the 'you're just picking on me' card.

I asked what a 'Joaner' was and she made it pretty clear it wasnt a racial thing, but these were the kids always in trouble at school, cutting lines, and beating up other kids. I asked why the kids dont defend themselves and she said that you would still get in trouble for fighting, and since no one wanted to have to hear the Joaners squawking, they always get away with their shenanigans.

'The Joaners rule now, Dad. Dont know what it was like when you were in school.'

Well, the filth dominating basketball is only doing so because the NBA decided to let the 'stars' get away with any rule infraction like traveling and not throwing out people for starting fights.

Now it is just a gutter sport, IMO, and I do not encourage any of my kids to watch it or discuss it at all.


13 posted on 11/22/2004 7:15:53 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: Josh in PA

The guy he attacked was taunting him. If I were Artest, I would have assumed it was the jerk who was taunting me.

Bye-bye Pacers season.


14 posted on 11/22/2004 7:16:40 AM PST by Guillermo (Michael Moore is fat)
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I didn't see Artest hit anybody until those two drunk fatties wandered onto the court. When Artest jumped into the stands I saw him shove a guys face into the seats. There was lots of arms flailing but I didn't see him hit anyone in the stands.

I'm not defending his actions. I think he, Jackson and O'Neal should all be suspended for the season.

15 posted on 11/22/2004 7:19:50 AM PST by GSWarrior
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Why doesn't anyone talk about the idiot who threw the first punch (only got a 6 game suspension)... I think his actions were way beyond the fray, and what started the whole thing.

The "acceptable level" of violence in sport is horrifying.


16 posted on 11/22/2004 7:22:02 AM PST by RushCrush (I Heart Halliburton)
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To: Josh in PA

Who cares? Those players (and any fans involved) need to be arrested, jailed, prosecuted, and sent to prison, and the players need to be banned from basketball for LIFE to send a much needed, and long overdue message. After all, we've got it on tape this time around. It should be a "slam dunk" IF we can prevent fans, coaches, owners, the media, etc. from CONTINUING to kiss the ass of these overpaid, self-indulgent, self-important, immature and ignorant thugs.


17 posted on 11/22/2004 7:26:26 AM PST by DocH (Release ALL your Navy records AND your private journal Kerry!)
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I don't think he was taunting him.. I think he was cheering on the raucus on the court, just like the other 20,000 people in the crowd were doing. I don't even think he saw Artest until his fist was in his face.


18 posted on 11/22/2004 7:26:37 AM PST by Josh in PA
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I'll try to defend my point using the Iraq war. The US put up with Iraq for years after the first Gulf War. Not taking a firm action, just brushing it off. Until finally, we had enough, we went to war. Artest has had cups and other things thrown at him on more than one occasion throughout his career. He might have deserved it, but that's not really the point. Finally, he just snapped. You can't expect everybody to sit back and take the abuse forever. He's still human. I still think he should have been suspended though. I just don't think the rest of the season is appropriate. I was thinking more like 15 games. Just my opinion.


19 posted on 11/22/2004 7:28:22 AM PST by kizzdogg
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To: Josh in PA

espn had a roundtable discusion saturday evening. everyone of their announcers agreed it was all the fan's fault, and the players were justified in beating the crap out of the fans.


20 posted on 11/22/2004 7:28:48 AM PST by wewon
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