Skip to comments.Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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Thank you too.
I don't understand your remarks. While I'm extremely concerned about immigration issues I'm even more concerned about police state issues and that's what a national I.D. card will open the door for. Petitioning our senators to vote against H.R. 418 is to prevent national I.D. card legislation from being enacted.
You stated that the Senate wouldn't pass H.R. 418. Why do you think that?
Not off topic at all.
Yet another attempt to extend federal control and command,
as we are moved ever closer to the train yard of the NWO.
I like the liberty committe that you sighted before, but I find nothing that establishes a "national ID" in HR 418. It will make standards for states issuing driver's license. Read it over for yourself.
The senate (except Inhofe) has no interest in addressing illegal immigration. Frist was on the tube last night and said they would try to "get to it" in the next few years.
The bill is a start, covers only terrorism aspects except for the finishing of the San Diego fence, which ticks off the enviro's, which makes me like it! LOL!
HUMAN EVENTS: What are the key provisions of your REAL ID act?
SENSENBRENNER: There are four provisions. First, an applicant for a driver's license or renewal must prove lawful presence in the United States, otherwise the driver's license will be endorsed that they have not done so. The driver's licenses would have to indicate lawful presence to be used for federal purposes, such as getting on an airplane. Second, the bill tightens the asylum laws so that terrorists, like the one who plotted the '93 World Trade Center bombing and the man who shot up the entrance to the CIA headquarters, could not get into the country and roam around as an asylum applicant. Third, the bill completes the 3-and-half mile gap in the border fence south of San Diego that has been held up as a result of environmental lawsuits. And fourth, the bill changes the law that says that if an alien is not admissible into the United States because of affiliation with terrorist groups, that alien is deportable. The present law says if someone makes a mistake to let you in, we cannot kick you out in some circumstances.
HUMAN EVENTS: When these provisions were being discussed last year, some in the Senate said we should not interfere with the rights of states to deal with their driver's licenses. Why does your proposal not contradict the 10th Amendment, which says that powers not specifically delegated to the federal government should be reserved to the states or the people?
SENSENBRENNER: It does not do so because it does not tell the states who they can issue driver's licenses to and who they can't. What it does say is that when they issue a driver's license, in order for that driver's license to be used for federal ID purposes, the applicant must show lawful presence in the United States. This, in my opinion, is a very important provision if we are to avoid the pressure for a national ID card, which I oppose.
Read the entire interview: http://www.HumanEventsOnline.com/article.php?id=6504
Thanks for the information and link.
I just heard Alex Jones say that on the third hour of his program today (between 1 and 2 Central time, www.infowars.com )either Ron Paul or Jeff Dice from his office will discuss H.R. 418 and its implications. I'll be tuning in; perhaps you'd like to hear it as well.
Alex also mentioned that during his show today he'll be discussing the toll road issue in Austin and elsewhere.
Are you and I the only AJ listeners on this forum? ;-)
I've got it, and immediately loaned it out to try and wake up a friend. Here in the CenTex, we've got a pretty good group of folks who are spreading the word. Jack McLamb and John Moore are coming down here next weekend to speak, and will be staying with some other friends - so I hope to get to meet those guys while they're in town.
You do know about rbnlive.com and their internet streams, don't you?
I only recentlydiscovered rbnlive.com I've listened so far to Jack Blood but not the others, although I have heard Jack McLamb being interviewed on another program.
I regularly listen to the archives of Michael Corbin's 4acloserlook.com because his guests are so informative. I also listen to Steve Quayle each day. Also listen to Coast to Coast A.M. and Jeff Rense when they don't have outre guests. If I get addicted to any more programs I'll be housebound and worthless. Sure have learned a lot listening to those folks though.
Whoa! Using google to spell-check "sovereignty," I found Sovereignty International which appears to be yet another great resource.
Time to go pay some bills, before they cut off our utilities.
newswithviews.com material not welcome on FR.
WTF is up with that?
News With Views has had some great and timely articles. For example, they've published Joan Veon's articles, and I believe Frosty Wooldridge as well.
Sorry that they are unwelcome at FR. Wonder why.
How can enforcing our laws be "unwelcome" at this place?
Has Alberto Josef Mengele Gonzalez been appointed a mod here?
I can tell you've been listening to Alex!!!
Obviously you tried to post from NWV's. You might want to try to repost directly from Frosty's website and see what happens.
Of course, I listen.
You should have mail, btw.
Thanks, just jammed in Genesis to check it out.
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll tune in the archived program.
I failed to thank you for the link to Sovereignty International'and the Timeline to the NWO. There's a gold mine of truth there.
Will tune in tomorrow afternoon to hear John Stadtmiller and Dessie Andrews.
In their own words:
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications who directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years but the world is now more sophisticated & prepared to march towards a world government which will never again know war but only peace and prosperity for the whole of authority."
-- David Rockefeller, CFR/Bilderberg/TC, 5 June 1991.
February 8, 2005
Are the terrorists winning? [Yes, the legislative terrorists within Bush government are winning]. When "al-Qaeda" [al-CIA-duh] attacked the United States on September 11, 2001, they made it clear they hate [constitutional] America and want to terrorize us into changing America [and have]. [More like a coupe d'tat from within!].
If they could [and they can], the terrorists [and you know who they are] would destroy the unique American way of life [and they are]. But they can't [by themselves]. Only we [Fed Congress and State government actually] can do that.
Tragically, too much of the [anti-constitutional and tyrannical] legislation enacted by Congress in a knee-jerk reaction to [the Operation] 9/11 [plan] does "al-Qaeda's" job for them. The [anti]Patriot Act took the first, disastrous [and lethal] step toward fundamentally changing our way of life. Then came the Homeland Security [i.e. Gestapo] bill, followed by the 9/11 intelligence reorganization bill. ['9/11 intelligence' is an oxy-moron]. And now the Real ID Act of 2005 (H.R. 418) will be voted on Thursday, February 10th --[PATRIOT INQUISITION BILL].
What's wrong with H.R. 418 -- a bill we are told will stem the flow of illegal aliens [like Vincent (the) Fox] through our porous borders? For starters, it does NOTHING to stem the flow of illegal aliens. Instead, H.R. 418 will:
1. Establish a national ID card [where "Membership has its privileges"].
2. Establish a federally-coordinated database of personal information on American citizens with Canada and Mexico [your already being tracked by SS# and DL at the border...they know where you work].
3. Use the new national ID to track American citizens when traveling outside the U.S. -- and within the U.S.(Canada, Great Britain, Mexico, etc.)
4. Re-define "terrorism" in broad new terms that could include members of firearms rights and anti-abortion groups or other such groups as determined by whoever is in power at the time.
5. Authorize the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security to unilaterally expand the information included in driver's licenses, including such biometric information as retina scans and DNA information -- and even radio frequency identification (RFID) tracking technology. Carry a driver's license with RFID and governmental officials will know your whereabouts 24/7.
Incredibly, H.R. 418 does nothing to solve the growing threat to national security posed by people who are already in the U.S. illegally. Instead, H.R. 418 states what we already know: that certain people here illegally are "deportable." But it does nothing to mandate deportation. H.R. 418 fails miserably on this most critical issue.
The Real ID Act or Real National ID Act will impose a Soviet-style internal passport on law-abiding American citizens. Proponents of H.R. 418 say we must "make sacrifices" like this to control our borders and fight illegal immigration. But H.R. 418 is a Trojan horse -- it pretends to offer desperately needed border control in order to stampede Americans into sacrificing what is uniquely American: more of our constitutionally protected liberty. H.R. 418 does what al-Qaeda could never do without our help.
H.R. 418 does what legislation restricting firearm ownership does. [Exactly]. It punishes law-abiding citizens [pre-booking them as criminal arrests, invading privacy, quartering soldiers at checkpoints, and legalizing unwarrantable "search and seizure"]. Criminals will ignore it. H.R. 418 offers us a false sense of greater security at the cost of taking a gigantic step toward making America a police state. The terrorists [are just about to and] will have won.
Urge your U.S. representative to vote "no" [because its contrary to their oath of office, and you are watching them, and no longer tolerant of this] on H.R. 418. Go to http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/alert/?alertid=6938731&type=CO
Kent Snyder The Liberty Committee http://www.thelibertycommittee.org
A very, very interesting paragraph. There is no doubt in my mind that this is true and continues today by the MSM.
One question,if I may. Who is the "whole of authority"?
"...only peace and prosperity for the whole of authority."
Hmmm. Sounds to me as though peace and prosperity is limited to those who are in authority. What would conditions be like for those who are not in authority? I shudder to even think of the oppression.
Isn't it interesting that over the years that our elected officials have in turn established authorities, such as airport authority, housing authority, etc. and appointed individuals to head such authorities who are completely autonomous and answer to the voters for nothing.
Here's another quote, this one from Henry Kissinger.
"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." -- Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderburgers meeting. Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting.
Heinz Kissinger has lots of outstanding thoughts out there, of course, he was this regime's first choice to head up the 911 CoverupCommission...our rulers are so totally "in your face" these days.
To be quite honest, I had never thought about "authority" in any such manner. Yes, we do have a whole lot of "authorities" with committees and sub-committees, regions and sub-regions. Huge isn't exactly the word for the UN. It is more like obese.
The sentences that really gets to me from H. Kisinger: This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil.
I guess he would use David Rockefellow's MSM since they are already bought and paid for.
What is MSM? Notice that you indicate you're a has-been Republican. Does that mean that you too, have resigned from the party?
Recommend that you refer to Lodwick's #763 post wherein he links "Timeline to Global Governance." Whoever compiled that timeline did an awesome job.
MainStreamMedia aka MainStreamNews
MSM refers to the mainstream media. NY Times, Washington Post, ABC, CBS, CNN etc.
I think I was born a Republican with very conservative parents. They warned me of the Rockefellow Republicans and I definitely know why. They were of the era when Rockefellow was controlling the news. Thinking back on it, my parents very seldom talked about the UN but they gave Rockefellow Republicans He!!.
I consider myself as an independent now. So if you are a politician, you are going to have to work for my vote.
That is an awesome website.What is amazing is how many committees there are for one subject such as the environment. There are 2 ways to describe the UN. 1. It is bloated and 2. How many people does it take to screw in a lightbulb? These aren't the smartest people in the world but they do have an agenda and they are not backing down
Visit this the following for more info: No Invaders.org
Companies that promote and aid illegal invaders.
Please do not use contact information for the purpose of harassment or making threats.
Name of Business: Citi Bank E-mail: Phone: 800-THE-BANK Address: 100 Citibank Drive, P.O. Box 76 City: San Antonio State: Texas Zipcode: 78245-9004 Date Submitted: 12/15/2004 10:28:09 AM CST Comments on Employer's Illegal Activity: A fanatic lobbyist for promoting and accepting the Matricula Consular card, they boast a bank account campaign accepting the card and giving away mugs with the Mexican flag.
Name of Business: Wells Fargo Bank E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org Phone: 1-800-869-3557 Address: Nationwide City: Nationwide State: California Zipcode: Nationwide Date Submitted: 12/19/2004 08:42:29 AM CST Comments on Employer's Illegal Activity: Another active lobbyist for the Matricula Consular card, they now accept that card in many states.
Name of Business: The Home Depot E-mail: Phone: (800) 553-3199 Address: Worldwide City: Worldwide State: California Zipcode: Worldwide Date Submitted: 01/19/2005 11:01:22 AM CST Comments on Employer's Illegal Activity: Known to subsidize day labor lounges for illegal aliens throughout California, and will even lobby local city counsels for tax payer subsidation of these lounges.
Name of Business: Tyson Foods, Inc. E-mail: Phone: Address: City: Nationwide State: Tennessee Zipcode: Date Submitted: 01/19/2005 11:41:20 AM CST Comments on Employer's Illegal Activity: A ruthless illegal alien employer, it is vulnerable because it has already been indicted by the U.S. Department of Justice for conspiracy to hire illegals in its Shelbyville, Tennessee plant. (The firm is also on probation for bribing Clinton Agricultural Secretary Mike Espy.)
Name of Business: Western Union E-mail: Phone: 1-800-325-6000 Address: 12510 E. Belford Ave. M22B3 City: Englewood State: Colorado Zipcode: 80112 Date Submitted: 02/03/2005 6:09:10 PM CST Comments on Employer's Illegal Activity: Heavily involved in the transfer of tens of billions of dollars a year from illegal aliens to others abroad. They promote open-border forums and seminars under the disguised title of "immigration reform".
"" The U.N. is boxing above it's weight class with us. We're not Canada.""
We might as well be. The UN is now taking over the seas, with Dubya's support.
UN already owns a lot of land in this country.
Uh, that is no reassurance. Read up on what CAFTA does to our sovereignty. And FTAA. And the LOST treaty which GWB is also pushing.
Bump. Found this old post and wondering what your thoughts were now with the evil one in charge?
Agenda 21 seems to be making its rounds on the web again. I see more frequently on websites.
Maybe people will wake up. Every city in the nation has its ‘smart growth’ redevelopment money housing that sits empty because no one wants to live in it.
They’re going to start turning into dilapidated properties, in our county the gangs have already taken over them, because our county was one of the first to go Agenda 21 on its constituents.
People will begin to notice, the thinking people will ask why so much money was spent on these people dumps.
I think the Governor of Maine woke up and ended all the agenda 21 programs in the state.