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The link between Schiavo case and Hitler's rise
Olive Tree Ministries ^ | 3-21-2005 | Jan Markell

Posted on 03/26/2005 10:22:59 AM PST by wto8585

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To: Howlin; Constitution Day

Another winner.


21 posted on 03/26/2005 10:51:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (Accused Culture of Death member for daring to expose Terri hysteria)
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To: skip_intro
It's going to get a lot worse. These people have become completely unhinged.

That's what I'm afraid of.

22 posted on 03/26/2005 10:51:46 AM PST by .38sw
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To: wto8585
It's A 'How to Fix' the social security dilemma
23 posted on 03/26/2005 10:52:18 AM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: tomahawk
It happened, and the justification offered for it does bear similiarities to this situation.

I'm not sure I see any similarities. If Judge Greer did not believe that Terri herself wanted to end her life in this manner, she would still be on feeding tubes. I doubt that Hitler made such a distinction. BTW, others on this thread are making the comparison with the holocaust.

I am Jewish, half of my family was murdered in the Holocaust, and I do not consider this article on the murder of the disabled to be offensive in any way.

The issue is not whether you personally are offended, but how the majority of Americans are interpreting these kinds of comparisons. It would appear that Terri Schiavo's life or death issue cannot stand on its own merits but must be somehow pumped up either with the death of Christ on the cross or with genocide issues. This kind of lunacy merely feeds the MSM's insatiable desire to discredit the right in any way it can.

24 posted on 03/26/2005 10:53:00 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: Critter

"The murder of 6 million began with the murder of 1."

And I bet everyone who killed during that reign had at some point in their lives eaten carrots too.


25 posted on 03/26/2005 10:54:28 AM PST by Rebelbase (Accused Culture of Death member for daring to expose Terri hysteria)
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To: Lazamataz

"You're worse that Hitler. Terri is G-d, sent to test us."

He was hungry, and we offered Him no food. He was thirsty, and we gave Him no drink. Who will deny Him before the cock crows thrice?


26 posted on 03/26/2005 10:54:31 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
He was hungry, and we offered Him no food. He was thirsty, and we gave Him no drink. Who will deny Him before the cock crows thrice?

Who, Hitler?

27 posted on 03/26/2005 10:55:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: Lazamataz

Where you see the least among us, there also is He. No worries....


28 posted on 03/26/2005 10:56:49 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: wto8585
No, America isn't Nazi Germany! Yet what is happening here makes me very uncomfortable.

As it should to everyone reading this story--even "conservative" freepers hell-bent on defending the Bush brothers in the face of their obvious and craven cowardice.

Yuppie Freepers Beware: if the government cannot protect your life, it cannot protect your pocket book. If the law enforcement officials doing Judge Greer's bidding can help an innocent woman die, they can take your bank accounts with far fewer pains of conscience.

Wake up, America.
29 posted on 03/26/2005 10:57:16 AM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: MACVSOG68

The Nazis did kill disabled people, and Terri Schiavo is being killed. That is a similarity.

Many do believe this is not what she wanted, and that she is not in the PVS state being used as a predicate to kill her.

I agree that the Holocaust analogy could be misused, but I don't see any harm in people pointing out that the Nazis killed disabled people using justifications that are being offered now. I have read many people here and elsewhere saying that people "shouldn't live like this" which is not much different from saying people "like this shouldn't live".

My problem with this thing is that we don't know for sure what she wanted, we don't know if she is in a PVS, and I'm greatly bothered killing someone under these circumstances.

I do believe we will see more of these type killings and it's a legitimate thing to be concerned abuot.


30 posted on 03/26/2005 10:58:09 AM PST by tomahawk (If we can't stand for life, what can we stand for?)
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To: wto8585

WE are sinking into Hell...since Roe V Wade made it a 'right'
and no longer sin to kill your preborn child..

We will continue on towards Hitler and Stalin's version of Society...this is Satan's world and Satan's world system will for a time prevail until Messiah comes back to separate the sheep from the goats..

There is NO OTHER name under Heaven whereby men MUST be saved

Those that reject Christ reject God and embrace either the desire of their own evil nature or Satan's way..

Broad is the way to destruction and many go therein. Narrow is the gate to salvation...and few will find it...

Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation..this is not an intolerant view..simply the truth..

It's in His book...


31 posted on 03/26/2005 11:00:27 AM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Lazamataz

We, as a nation, are torturing someone to death. It is not clear whether she is semi-conscious or not. Who among us will defy this wicked nation's decision in various ways? We can choose to please men, or we can choose to please God. We have only one true master. Just as Thomas Jefferson wrote the foundation of the Free World, her right to live is inalienable. That's America. This is not. I hope that the Bush Family can right this wrong, or the path of this nation will flounder. FReegards....


32 posted on 03/26/2005 11:00:50 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Rebelbase

Wow, you are a genius! Damn! We better ban carrots!


33 posted on 03/26/2005 11:01:25 AM PST by Critter (America, home of the whipped.)
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To: wto8585
Ok...this is getting scary people

Yeah, it sure is.

34 posted on 03/26/2005 11:04:27 AM PST by Howlin
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To: skip_intro

Bump.


35 posted on 03/26/2005 11:05:04 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Rebelbase

"They're here."


36 posted on 03/26/2005 11:05:57 AM PST by Howlin
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To: tomahawk
The Nazis did kill disabled people, and Terri Schiavo is being killed. That is a similarity.

And did the Nazis give their victims thousands of man-hours of legal representation by state and federal courts for years deciding whether or not the evidence of her wishes was sufficient? When we make comparisons like this we cheapen history and tell the world that Terri's plight cannot stand on its own merits.

My problem with this thing is that we don't know for sure what she wanted, we don't know if she is in a PVS, and I'm greatly bothered killing someone under these circumstances

I'm on Terri's side on this issue, but nevertheless, the courts have ruled, and unfortunately, if Terri would not have wanted this, it is done.

But it is not a religious, political, or above all, a historical issue.

37 posted on 03/26/2005 11:07:19 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: tomahawk
It seems that some people think that the Germans of the early twentieth century were in some way qualitatively different from us. It's as if they think they were a different species of human or something.

The average German of that time wasn't some Snidely Whiplash-type character, rolling the tip of his handlebar mustache between his fingers.

People forget how close we always are to slipping over the shallow edge that separates a humane culture from one like Nazi Germany.

The Germans that started executing the disabled, first with the consent of the families, later without, had convinced themselves that they were doing the right thing. They thought it was a merciful, good act.

This goes along with the Pope's characterization of a "disordered sense of compassion." We must always examine our motivations carefully, and maintain respect for life in all cases.

38 posted on 03/26/2005 11:07:53 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: tomahawk

The Nazis did not land from outer space one day and take over. Hitler and his ilk took advantage of the cultural disintigration that happened after WWI -- they were part of the process of cultural disintigration. Certain legal elements of the Third Reich were already in place when the Nazis took over. Then the definition of "life unworthy of life" was ever-expanded. Who is to say that there is not some Hitler-like person today who is eagerly working to undermine just and humane standards in America or many other countries? If a country adopts a culture of death this is fertile ground for the next Hitler to appear.


39 posted on 03/26/2005 11:09:25 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell
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To: wto8585

Killing the disabled is a very Nazi-like behavior. There will be more of it.


40 posted on 03/26/2005 11:09:32 AM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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