Posted on 04/02/2005 7:26:51 AM PST by Sthitch
Wrong, the EO clearly says that a business needn't carry the pills. It must only dispense them if it has them on hand. If the owner doesn't want to dispense, he/she/they would simply opt not to have them in inventory.
I'll bet the owners are lauding this decision. No doubt that pharmacists who were refusing to dispense the drugs on hand, drugs which the owners bought with the hopes of selling for a profit, were a pain in the ass to deal with.
I would not make that assumption, I actually have no moral qualms with the idea of birth control, but I do have moral qualms with the government mandating that a private business or individual must sell something.
What arrogance by Blojo.
Each pharmacist has their duty to perform their services to
the best of their knowledge, and beliefs.
The person who hires them (i.e. Wal-mart, etc.) better be
sure that the person they hire has the same feelings that
the employer does....it is the professional who sets the
tone of their practice, and if their employer doesn't respect
that, then the employee should find a different venue for
their practice...But you cannot mandate that someone has to
do something they feel they cannot do. (They have conscientious
objectors to war don't they?)
This state mandated stuff is pathetic. The state laws generally
lag about 5-10 years after information and attitudes are
set in the general population.
Blojo should say something like this....
"you got pregnant, you do stuff that will get you pregnant,
YOU gotta find someone who's gonna do what YOU think is
right...."
No should be forced to protect someone who made a bad or
poorly thought out choice...What's next, Blojo telling a
bank they HAVE to make a loan to someone who is a bad
money manager, cause the borrower is in bad straights?
Blojo gotta go.
I actually do not post a reply that often. But when I see a response that goes so beyond any semblance of common sense I must respond.
It is obvious you have absolutely no concept of the meaning of freedom of speech if you believe a private business not selling a certain product is a violation of that same freedom.
So you are saying that the government should mandate that they not say anything? I am not sure what you do for a living, but what if the government decided that you could no longer express your opinion at work on any topic, I am sure that you would be irate. The idea that a Governor can tell you to Just shut up and do your job, when you do not work for the Governor, is ludicrous. Fine you do not want to be lectured, neither do I, but who is the Governor to decide what you can and can't say.
BTW, if these pharmacists are having crises of conscience dispensing these drugs, maybe they should work at pharmacies that do not carry them.
I agree with you, the way you worded your responses made it sound like you believed BC was always elective. A pharmacy that denies any medication to its customers will not stay in business.
But the problem is that pharmacies rely on reimbursement from medicaid and medicare, hence falls into guv'ment control. Just like hospitals, the notion that they are private establishment isn't completely true. The guv't makes the rules.
"Again, freedom of speech is only protected if you support abortion, otherwise keep your damn mouth shut." Well, Ive never been to good at keeping my damn mouth shut; so here goes. I'm PRO-LIFE and that's what I am. I was young once and I'm a guy that has always liked women. Well I've been pretty lucky to have found one that has kept me almost thirty five years now. We had two children and they went through the same things we did growing up though I think the pressures were greater for them. Yes I will use the word, we gave them rubbers. Was I happy about doing that and was I condoning anything they did NO. I wasn't able to like any other parent to be with them every minute of every day. All I can say is that in one way it did work. Neither one had any children or caused any abortions before they met their spouses. Here's the rest. They each did have a child before they were married to these spouses, yes they had them with their eventual spouses. Yes both of these two grandchildren could have been abortions though today one is ten and the other is eight. What we did with our children was not perfect though we seemed to have some great results and this is part of why I think it happened. Alot of Parents in my generation and now in my children's generation do not act like they know about the word DISCIPLINE. So what do we have? Communists and Nazis that promote abortions and many other things influencing our children. They couldn't beat us face to face and they did promise to beat us from within and that's exaxctly what is happening with every thing out there from drugs , abortions, and everything else people take to extremes. I was paid a wonderful honor by my oldest. He told me one time that I treated him like I was a Marine Gunnery Sergeant when he was growing up. I had only made it as far a U. S. Air Force Staff Sergeant. At the time he told me that he was a Air Controlman 1st Class United States Navy. He had seen a few Gunnys at work by that time I'm sure. He is living proof that discipline works and and that he knows it when he sees it. Come on Mom and Dad it isn't easy, you made it happen so take care of business. If this has upset anyone come on back I can take it.
Oh, the irony of it all!....The governor of Illinois can issue an executive order forcing pharmacies to fill birth control pills but the governor of Florida is too much of a weenie to save a life.
The idea that because the government has setup the dependence scheme of Medicare/Medicaid does not mean that they should gain extra control over someone's first amendment rights.
You're the one who seems to have difficulty differentiating between condoms and hamburgers, not me.
Will the good people of Illinois vote him out? It all depends on who the Republican Party gets to run against him. If they do something stupid and ask Keyes to run against him, I think you can count on another four years of Blagojevich. (I am not trying to insult Keyes, just the mentality that they needed to get a NON ILLINOIS CITIZEN to speak for the people of Illinois in the race against Obama.)
The political landscape there sure has changed in the last twenty years. The only shot for the GOP is to find and Illinois citizen who is well known and has no ties to George Ryan or his corrupt administration.
LOL!
My luck, now that I could afford that, I'm married ... bad timing!
Some things were just not meant to be. =)
If it's his business, he can simply choose not to purchase and sell the contraceptives. If he works for an employer, and the employer sells these contraceptives, the employer has every right to expect him to dispense them if a prescription is presented, and has the right to fire him if he doesn't. If he's not OK with that, he can seek another line of work.
or not dispensing aids drugs because of those biblicly disgusting homos that are damned to hell. or as was said pig by products to muslims or liquor/alcohol based products that are against several religions not to mention that religion that doesnt allow anything unnatural to be used in the body. or next mail men refusing to deliver anything in brown wrappers.
damn good point. Life is strange isn't it? Contradictions abound in our life daily. We attack one country who claims they are not a threat and don't have WMD, yet we have 2 others outright threatening us with nukes (or the possibilty of getting them soon) and we want to sit down and have tea with them. you gotta laugh or you'd go insane.
btw ... just to avoid slamming (or to cause it, not sure) I agree with the decision to attack Iraq
Walmart and other retailers not carrying Playboy is not a violation of freedom of speech. By what reasoning could a company be forced to carry a product that they do not want to carry? If the government makes it illegal to sell Playboy, then that would be a violation of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech does not require forced consumption of a product.
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