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Calaveras County Safe Again (ATF at it Again!)
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=4458 ^ | 4/29/05 | Jeff Knox

Posted on 04/29/2005 5:23:31 PM PDT by P_A_I

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This is an outrage:

"Even though it is a violation of federal law for information obtained from records generated in compliance with import license regulations to be used directly or indirectly as evidence against the licensee, the judge refused to hear arguments that the warrants were illegal and that all evidence seized was inadmissible.
Instead, he barred any mention of federal law in the courtroom and instructed the jury that if the prosecutor proved that Wilmshurst was in possession of the firearms in question (something that Wilmshurst never denied), that the jury must return a guilty verdict.

Let's hope the Ninth Circuit kicks this up to the USSC.

1 posted on 04/29/2005 5:23:32 PM PDT by P_A_I
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To: P_A_I

This is an outrage:

Especially considering:

Constitution for the United States of America:


2 posted on 04/29/2005 5:36:12 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: P_A_I
Let's hope the Ninth Circuit kicks this up to the USSC.

Likewise, let's hope Osama bin Laden turns himself in.

3 posted on 04/29/2005 5:38:21 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: ancient_geezer

Maybe it isn't such an outrage on the new FR. -- Only 2 replies from over 60 lurkers..

But ya, -- that judge should be impeached for violating his oath of office.


4 posted on 04/29/2005 5:52:30 PM PDT by P_A_I
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To: Jeff Gordon
Why the sarcasm?
5 posted on 04/29/2005 5:53:25 PM PDT by P_A_I
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To: P_A_I

Wait.
He had a class 3 license and an import license, and they went after him for 'assault weapons?!
I'm not understanding this, obviously.
Probably because whatever passes for thinking in the eyes of the judge and the 'investigators' doesn't quite 'click' I guess.


6 posted on 04/29/2005 5:59:23 PM PDT by Darksheare (You too can own your very own Bad Idea by Darksheare! Inquire within!)
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To: Darksheare; yall

It'll be interesting to read more detail about the charges & the trial, but I don't imagine they're on line yet..

Anyone know?


7 posted on 04/29/2005 6:07:02 PM PDT by P_A_I
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To: P_A_I

No, this is teh first I heard of this.
It sounds massively insane.
As if they had nothing better to do, flipped through the names of people with class 3 licenses and said "Let's nail him."


8 posted on 04/29/2005 6:08:42 PM PDT by Darksheare (You too can own your very own Bad Idea by Darksheare! Inquire within!)
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To: P_A_I
), that the jury must return a guilty verdict

Whats the judge going to do if they return a "not guilty" verdict?, throw the jury in jail?
9 posted on 04/29/2005 6:10:32 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: P_A_I

"Only 2 replies from over 60 lurkers."How do you know that?RE the article,imo that man has a lawsuit.What's sickening is our tax dollars finance these clowns.


10 posted on 04/29/2005 6:10:44 PM PDT by thombo
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To: P_A_I; Squantos; Eaker; humblegunner; archy; Travis McGee

Just added the keyword 'banglist' so the guys from the banglist can ponder this.
I imagine they've heard something about it, maybe dark rumor or more info than we've got.

Also pinging some of the guys to this as well, see what they can brainstorm on it.
The only thing I can say on it is "yikes".

I'm only a recreational .22LR target plinker, but this will still boil down to me way over here in NY.


11 posted on 04/29/2005 6:11:28 PM PDT by Darksheare (You too can own your very own Bad Idea by Darksheare! Inquire within!)
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To: P_A_I

bump


12 posted on 04/29/2005 6:12:49 PM PDT by righthand man (WE'RE SOUTHERN AND PROUD OF IT)
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To: P_A_I
Why the sarcasm?

Sorry. My thought was that the Ninth would do everything it could to supress gun rights. I think they will work hard to keep the SCOTUS from gettting this case in our life time.

13 posted on 04/29/2005 6:14:36 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: P_A_I

The US legal system now has little to do with Justice. Stay as far away as possible. The only hope is more jury nullification until things turn around.


14 posted on 04/29/2005 6:15:20 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: Jeff Gordon

The whole 9th circuit should be impeached....


15 posted on 04/29/2005 6:16:18 PM PDT by Little_shoe ("For Sailor MEN in Battle fair since fighting days of old have earned the right.to the blue and gold)
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To: Darksheare; yall
Here's some background info:

Charges in gun case could be dropped

Published: October 17, 2003
By SCOTT PESZNECKER

An Angels Camp resident charged with possessing several illegal firearms must wait until next week to learn if the charges against him will be dismissed.

Richard Wilmshurst, owner of 49er Subaru in historic Angels Camp, faces 10 counts of possessing assault weapons.
A federal Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agent reported the firearms to state officials in January after Wilmshurst showed them to her during a routine inspection.

Wilmshurst, a federally licensed firearms importer, says federal law allows him to have the firearms, even if they're not legal by state standards.
State prosecutors disagree.

Wilmshurst had faced three counts of possessing an assault weapon and seven counts of unlawful assault weapon activity when he was arraigned in June. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
But at yesterday's preliminary hearing — set in the historic Black Bart courtroom in old town San Andreas because all the courtrooms at the government center were full — the state Attorney General's Office modified the charges.

At the end of the hearing, Stanislaus County Judge Glenn Ritchey said he would wait until 3:30 p.m. Tuesday before deciding if the charges would hold up beyond the preliminary hearing.
Also on Tuesday, Ritchey will decide on a motion by Wilmshurst's attorney to suppress evidence uncovered when Wilmshurst's home and business were searched earlier this year.

Wilmshurst's Sonora attorney, Thomas
Marovich, said his client had to incriminate himself for state authorities to get the search warrant. That violates the Constitution's Fifth Amendment, Marovich said.

In January, when the ATF agent saw Wilmshurst's weapons cache — which included machine guns and high-powered rifles — she notified the state of her findings.

State authorities obtained a search warrant and returned to Angels Camp. They found 10 guns that Wilmshurst possessed illegally, according to state standards, Deputy Attorney General Aaron Maguire said.
16 posted on 04/29/2005 6:17:48 PM PDT by P_A_I
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Make a note of this, it was state "ninjas" that conducted this raid, not federal:
In February, officers from the California Department of Justice Firearms Enforcement Division ... staged raids on Wilmshurst's home and Angel Camp car dealership.
Just wanted to make that clear ...
17 posted on 04/29/2005 6:18:24 PM PDT by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Darksheare
Well I reckon those guns looked ugly.
Ugly guns are bad, y'know.
18 posted on 04/29/2005 6:21:15 PM PDT by humblegunner (We ain't subject to terror, but it's unwise to irritate us.)
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From The Union Democrat - News of the Mother Lode since 1854:
Car dealer guilty in weapons case - March 14, 2005, by Mike Morris

A jury late Friday afternoon convicted an Angels Camp businessman of violating state law by possessing a machine gun and nine assault weapons.

Richard Wilmshurst, co-owner of Forty-Niner Subaru, remains free on his own recognizance and will be sentenced next month.

"There was no doubt there was possession (of the weapons)," said juror Jennifer Eltringham, 53, of Angels Camp.

She said the guilty verdict was not easily reached. But after listening to more than a day's worth of testimony, combined with the judge's instructions, jurors found Wilmshurst guilty of the two counts.

Wilmshurst, 68, said after Friday's hearing that the verdict did not surprise him given California's strict gun laws.

"They're pretty tough in this state, right or wrong," he said. "They go against the other 49 states, but I happen to live in California."

A federal Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agent reported the guns to state officials in January 2003 after finding them during a routine inspection on Wilmshurst's private property.

When state authorities returned to Angels Camp, they found 10 guns that are illegal to possess under California law, said Deputy Attorney General Aaron Maguire.

A jury of seven men and five women deliberated for about an hour Friday afternoon in Calaveras County Superior Court. A few people, including Wilmshurst's son, sat in the courtroom as a court clerk read the verdict.

Along with Sonora attorney Thomas Marovich, Wilmshurst represented himself in trial last Thursday and Friday.

He maintains that his federal gun import license supersedes state laws.

"California doesn't recognize anybody but California," he said after the trial.

Wilmshurst said he had the guns at home because he and his longtime friend, who died in Wyoming, were going to go into business together, selling the guns to law enforcement and airport security crews.

His friend died in 2002, the year before the weapons were found.

On Feb. 11, Wilmshurst said he filed an appeal of his case to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco so he can "get a reading on the Second Amendment as it applies to individuals in the United States."

A portion of the Second Amendment reads, " ... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Wilmshurst, who said he hopes his case is appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court by a three-judge panel, was not sure when the panel will hear his case.

"It's due to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court," Wilmshurst said.

As for the state case, Thomas Smith, a visiting El Dorado County judge, set a deadline of today for Wilmshurst to schedule an interview with the Calaveras County Probation Department.

That interview will help determine his sentence. A sentencing hearing will be held at 9:30 a.m. April 21.

Maguire would not comment on the case or what sentence Wilmshurst could face.

Car dealer's gun cache must go - April 22, 2005, by Mike Morris

A judge yesterday ordered an Angels Camp businessman to turn over his gun collection to the Calaveras County Sheriff's Department or a licensed gun dealer.

The ruling by Judge Thomas Smith came after a Calaveras County Superior Court jury last month convicted Richard Wilmshurst of violating state law by possessing a machine gun and nine assault weapons.

Wilmshurst, co-owner of Forty-Niner Subaru, yesterday morning was sentenced to three years on probation.

With the sentence, Wilmshurst may not possess or use any firearm or dangerous weapon and he's subject to random firearm searches. He also must have written permission from his probation officer before leaving the state.

"He's shown exactly no remorse on these charges," Smith said, noting that Wilmshurst collected guns to "stockpile his own arsenal."

After yesterday's sentencing hearing, Wilmshurst said he will appeal the case within the state's 60-day limit. And he's confident the ruling will be overturned in his favor.

An advocate of the right to bear arms, Wilmshurst defended having the weapons in a pre-sentencing statement to Smith.

"Even in a small town such as Angels Camp you never know when you have to defend yourself or others," he wrote.

Smith denied Wilmshurst's request to give his guns to his grandson, a Tracy police officer.

The visiting El Dorado County judge also said no to a motion by Wilmshurst and his Sonora attorney, Thomas Marovich, to reduce the two felony charges to misdemeanors.

"He has had a clean record for 68-plus years," Marovich said of Wilmshurst.

The lawyer further asked that Wilmshurst, 68, not face time behind bars because of his age and his "family responsibilities."

Smith in turn ordered Wilmshurst to serve one day in the county jail, but gave him credit for that sentence because the businessman was booked there in 2003 on the gun charges.

"I think the judge made a good sentencing choice," said Deputy Attorney General Aaron Maguire, who prosecuted the case.

A federal Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agent reported the guns to state officials in January 2003 after finding them during a routine inspection on Wilmshurst's private property.

When state authorities returned to Angels Camp, they found 10 guns illegal to possess under California standards.

Outside of the courthouse, Wilmshurst said he doesn't know how many guns he has or where he will turn them over to.

But he maintains his federal gun import license should supersede state law.

"Generally, federal licenses are left alone by the state," he said.

Wilmshurst said he had the guns at home because he and his longtime friend Michael Halligan, who died in 2002 during a Wyoming hunting trip, were going to go into business together selling the guns to law enforcement and airport security crews.

The machine gun was given to Wilmshurst by Halligan, who got it from a World War II veteran. Wilmshurst was supposed to store the gun, he said.

"I had started to build a firearms inventory prior to Michael's death and my stroke (in 1997). After the stroke, my life slowed down and the firearms inventory was put on the back burner and few firearms were purchased," Wilmshurst wrote in the pre-sentencing statement.

The five-page statement outlines Wilmshurst's gun history.

He wrote about going on hunting trips around Angels Camp as a teenager, receiving a federal firearms license for $2 while in high school and keeping a pistol in his glove box "to shoot a suffering deer or other animal on the roadway."

Wilmshurst said he keeps guns at his car dealership because, in the 1980s, a man with a gun tried to enter the dealership's body shop. He also noted that, in the 1970s, a man kidnapped and raped his office manager's wife.

When on his property between Angels Camp and Murphys, Wilmshurst said he carries a gun to protect himself and anyone with him from possible mountain lions.

"In the foothills, firearms are a part of life," he said. "Every person has a right to keep a firearm in his home for the protection of his family and himself. He also has a right to apply and carry a concealed weapon if approved."

19 posted on 04/29/2005 6:22:32 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: thombo
Maybe it isn't such an outrage on the new FR. -- Only 2 replies from over 60 lurkers..

How do you know that?

The original post shows that info; right now we're batting 17 out of 190...


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