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Who Started the Second World War?
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | November 1991 | Richard M. Ebeling

Posted on 05/05/2005 2:13:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War? by Viktor Suvorov (London: Harnish Hamilton, 1990); 364 pages; $22.95.

In the early hours of September 1, 1939, the military might of Nazi Germany was set loose on Poland. As Panzer divisions crossed the Polish-German border, the German air force began its devastating rain of death on Warsaw and other Polish cities. On September 3, Britain and France declared war on Germany.

On September 17, the Soviet Red Army invaded Poland from the east and met up with the German forces at the city of Brest-Litovsk. Poland ceased to exist as an independent nation, divided between the two great totalitarian states of the European continent. World War II had begun.But did World War II, in fact, begin in September on the plains of Poland? And was it in fact, Nazi Germany that began the Second World War?

What made it possible for Hitler to feel secure in invading Poland to the east, and not to worry about a two-front war if Britain and France initiated hostilities in the west, was the Nazi-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact of August 23, 1939. In a secret protocol to the pact, Hitler and Stalin had agreed to divide up Eastern Europe. In the event of war, Poland would be split down the middle between Germany and the U.S.S.R., with Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the Romanian province of Bessarabia assigned to the Soviet sphere of influence.

Why did Stalin enter into this fiendish pact with Hitler? After all, throughout the 1930s, the Nazi and Soviet leaders had accused each other of being the greatest evil on the face of the earth. Most historians have argued that Stalin had come to the conclusion that the Western powers could not be relied upon in case of war. Rather than face the German army on his own, it was better to sign a non-aggression pact with the Nazi devil and have the extra time to defensively prepare the Soviet Union for the attack that Stalin knew would eventually come from Nazi Germany.

Viktor Suvorov, in his book Icebreaker: Who Started the Second World War?, challenges this thesis concerning the rationale behind Soviet policy toward Hitler. Mr. Suvorov, a former Soviet army officer who has written extensively on the Soviet military and intelligence network, argues that the Nazi-Soviet pact was not a defensive action on Stalin's part. Instead, it was part of Stalin's Marxist strategy for revolutionary victory in Europe.

Marx and Engels believed that clashes between the capitalist nations would create avenues for the establishment of socialism. Lenin shared this belief. He saw World War I as a way among capitalist-imperialist powers, fighting over the plunder of the world. The more brutal and destructive the war, the more the power bases of the capitalist classes would be weakened. And out of this destruction would come the opportunity to transform a capitalist war into a "class war," resulting in the victory of communism.

World War I created the conditions for the Bolshevik Revolution and the triumph of socialism in Russia. Lenin believed that another world war would bring about the death of capitalism in other nations. Hence, anything that created the conditions for another world war was viewed as good from the revolutionary Marxist point of view.

Suvorov shows that Stalin shared this view. During the late 1920s and early 1930s, the Soviets assisted the Nazis in destroying the Weimar Republic in Germany. "Icebreaker,, was the Soviet code name for Hitler — the man who Would "break the ice "bring about another world war, and create the opportunity for the destruction of capitalism in Europe and the victory of socialism under Soviet leadership.

By signing the Nazi-Soviet pact in August 1939, Stalin deliberately produced the conditions for the world war that he wanted. Germany would fight the Other two main European powers — Britain and France — and then the Soviet Union would enter the war in its final stages to come out as the ultimate victor.

Suvorov also convincingly demonstrates that Stalin was not developing defensive forces along the new Soviet border with Germany, but rather as building up a vast and powerful offensive military force. Stalin was clearly Planning to enter the war by attacking Germany, and then bringing socialism to Central and Western Europe on the bayonets of the Red Army. Furthermore, all the evidence suggests — and Suvorov musters a vast amount of military and political evidence — that Stalin was planning his attack on Germany for the middle of July 1941.

Hitler preempted Lenin's plan by attacking the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941. The staggering defeats suffered by the Soviet army in the early stages of the war was due to the fact that Stalin had tom down many of the Soviet defense positions and had not equipped his armies facing Germany with strategic-defense plans. All of their plans were for offensive operations.

The man who started World War II, therefore, was Stalin, who wanted to use Hitler as a tool for communist victory. And his plan partly succeeded. Out of the war's death and destruction, the Soviet Union was left as master of half of Europe, with Stalin as its Red Czar in the Kremlin.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 1939; commies; communism; geopolitics; germany; history; hitler; ironcurtain; lenin; molotov; molotovribbentrop; origins; ribbentrop; russia; secondworldwar; sovietunion; stalin; ussr; vilenin; worldwar2; worldwarii; wwii
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To: The Fop

Those definitions are incredibly concise and accurate. I am completely serious too.


101 posted on 05/05/2005 6:29:19 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I don't care who started it OUR GUYS finished it. God Bless America.


102 posted on 05/05/2005 6:29:30 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: yooper
Truman was anything but honest. He was a member of the Pendergast gang in Missouri. Also a former Klansman.

When he was president he actively aided Lyndon Johnson in stealing a Senate seat.

103 posted on 05/05/2005 6:31:49 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Especially considering what he had done in Austria one year earlier

The Austrians fell all over themselves to welcome their beloved Hitler.

104 posted on 05/05/2005 6:35:17 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: yarddog

I never go anywhere without my Marxist Dictionary, especially Greenwich Village. I need it to ask people directions, or where the nearest McDonalds is.

McDonalds: 1. The root of all evil. 2. An eating establishment that serves beef patties made from the flesh of Palestinian children slaughtered by Zionists in Jenin.


105 posted on 05/05/2005 6:38:09 PM PDT by The Fop (just because I'm a McCarthyite, doesn't mean you're not a Commie)
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To: Burr5
I was a little off on the timing. You do realize I was referring to the sinking of US naval river boats in China. My point was that hostilities predated Pearl. We were antagonizing each other for several years. The Flying Tigers for example. The actual event that triggered the sanctions was, ironically enough, Japanese occupation of Vichy French Indo China. Or as it is known today, Vietnam

As for picking two stupid fights, your opinion. We could probably of ignored Europe. But then would Stalin of swept all the way to the Atlantic? Or would Germany of figured out the bomb? I do think do to our economic interests in China at the time, and the Philippine islands being as strategic as they are, that conflict with Japan was inevitable.
106 posted on 05/05/2005 6:44:20 PM PDT by Wisconsin155 (newbie)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Kilroy! He was always first.


107 posted on 05/05/2005 6:46:32 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (Laura is wonderful so get off her back pinheads!)
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To: Wisconsin155

No. Stalin would obviously have gotten his ass kicked and Communism would have been over. What would Germany have been after Hitler's death? That's the interesting question.


108 posted on 05/05/2005 6:53:43 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Who Started the Second World War?"

A bunch of people after the First World War. Demanding reparations from countries that were thought to cause the WWI over time created a victimhood mentality against other nations that wanted reparations. They found leaders that said F-U and expanded industrial output and military strength. Russia was a victim of both wars. A bunch of people there around 1916 decided it was time to govern that country with the most sense they could. Wrong choice there and a civil war and Sovietism came about.

After the League of Nations was founded, Germany became a prosperious country and denied any more reperations payments. They said screw you and the League of Nations folded in the 1930's. Wasn't the League of Nations in Toulouse, or Lyon, France? I don't remember or need to- let's send the UN there.

My point is that the seeds of wars are planted many years earlier in time.

Today is Cinco da(de) Maya(u). I'm joining a little celebration with Mexican friends. In the 1860's the Mexican Army defeated the French Army. I give full support for Mexicans who are against the French. The stupid part is that most Mexicans, like most AmAIRicans, think this date is about where people come from, instead of kicking France out of a country. They don't teach history down there either. That's why I like to date women from Brazil. Good colleges, and the languages are equally hard to learn if you speak the other one. And we are Faith-believing countries 15 hours apart.

109 posted on 05/05/2005 7:44:43 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Gorjus

In that case, one could say that the Battle of Puebla (it's still Cinco de Mayo in this time zone) showed up France as being weaker than under Napoleon I.


110 posted on 05/05/2005 8:24:11 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: advance_copy

BWAAAHAAAAAHAA!

Beat me to it, damn it!


111 posted on 05/05/2005 8:26:43 PM PDT by rlmorel
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Serbians. They start most wars in Europe.


112 posted on 05/05/2005 8:28:46 PM PDT by rasblue (What would Barry Goldwater do?)
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To: BobS

I hadn't read your comment when I posted.


113 posted on 05/05/2005 8:29:20 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: advance_copy

I thought about saying that, but then realized that someone already had.

In my opinion , it had to be Tom DeLay.


114 posted on 05/05/2005 8:37:00 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( With Rather drawing $75,000 per speech, we can thank God that the country isn't powered by manure.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"I hadn't read your comment when I posted."

That's fine, we're have a little dinner here instead of going out because it's raining again. And I don't have to work tomorrow because it was done the last 2 weeks. They have to, though.

115 posted on 05/05/2005 8:37:44 PM PDT by BobS
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To: The Fop

Yuk! I was convinced those burgers was rat flesh, I'll eat else where in the future.


116 posted on 05/05/2005 8:42:09 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( With Rather drawing $75,000 per speech, we can thank God that the country isn't powered by manure.)
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To: Jim Noble
The Austrians fell all over themselves to welcome their beloved Hitler.

The Austrian Jews were none too happy about the Anschluss.


117 posted on 05/05/2005 9:06:07 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (This tagline will be destoyed to make way for a new Hyperspace bypass.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

After Poland had been overrun, she managed to establish a government-in-exile, armed forces and an intelligence service outside Poland, contributing substantially to the Allied effort throughout the war. Poland never made a general surrender and was the only German-occupied country which did not produce a puppet government that collaborated with the Nazis.


118 posted on 05/06/2005 2:35:10 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Doctor Stochastic
In that case, one could say that the Battle of Puebla (it's still Cinco de Mayo in this time zone) showed up France as being weaker than under Napoleon I.

Okay, at least if Hitler/Tojo knew about it. Anything that adds to the 'we can get away with it' calculation contributes to aggression. Despite all the wishful thiking of appeasing liberals, the history of humanity has shown that strength is the best and only reliable deterrent to war. Of course, that's only been known since Marcus Aurelius.

Your example does point out a case that demonstrates real strength is a matter of will, not just of mechanisms. Fanatic determination can overcome a shortage of conventional combat power. Which leads to the second root cause for war - a feeling that there is nothing to lose.

I think it's interesting that the United States has been the most magnanimous nation in victory of any civilization in history (with the notable exception of our internal war against the American aborigines, and - though demeaning - even there the reservation 'solution' represents a value in billions of current dollars given to the defeated enemy). That can be a weakness, too, because it leads to the 'nothing to lose' decision as parodied in, "The Mouse That Roared." It's a careful balance that we certainly haven't always gotten right, though I believe we've done pretty well overall.
119 posted on 05/06/2005 5:52:51 AM PDT by Gorjus
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To: YOUGOTIT
I have always wondered why the UK and France declared war on Germany for the invasion of Poland and did not declare war on the USSR when they were in league with the Nazi and also invaded and murdered in Poland.

Simply to drive a wedge between the Germans and Russians.

120 posted on 03/26/2006 10:21:34 PM PST by fso301
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