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National Review Online ^ | 6/2/2005 | Catherine Seipp

Posted on 06/02/2005 6:33:25 PM PDT by Huntress

My patience with self-absorbed parents has been wearing thin lately. One Sunday night around 9 P.M., for instance, the phone began ringing every 20 minutes or so for about two-and-a-half hours. There were no voice-mail messages, except for a couple that recorded only an electronic sounding beep. A wrong number? A misdialed fax? Finally at 10:30 P.M., awakened, I hit *69, hoping that if it was a wrong number I could ask whoever it was to please stop bothering me.

But it turned out the caller was a fellow journalist whose son goes to my daughter’s school. I could hear electronic beeps in the background, apparently from her home-office equipment, so obviously it had been her calling repeatedly all night — the way people do when they're trying to flush you out rather than simply leave a message that might be ignored. She knew I'd recently had to start some nasty new fatigue-causing medication, so rightly suspected I was home.

“Well, because I was trying to get hold of you!” she exclaimed when I asked why she'd kept calling and calling without leaving a message. “You see, we've got an urgent problem...” Her ninth-grade son needed info for a team homework project due the next day from a classmate, whose phone number he'd neglected to get, and they didn't have a student directory. “I was hoping you might!” she explained brightly.

“I don't know if I have a student directory,” I said shortly, “but I do know that I'm not getting out of bed at 10:30 P.M. on Sunday night to look for it.” Nor did I have any intention of waking my daughter, who's the one around here keeping track of most school-related info anyway.

The woman sent an apologetic e-mail the next day, although actually it was rather short on the apology and long on the “urgent” explanation, which she apparently felt confident was a completely understandable excuse, if only I could be made to realize her terribly important situation. You see, the classmate was supposed to provide the homework info, but he hadn't, and, well... Etc.

I briefly considered responding with a definition of the word “urgent” concerning late-night phone calls: You have (life-or-death) info that is of vital importance to me. You've just discovered that a psychopathic killer is on his way to my house, for instance.

Not: I might have (non-life-or-death) info that you would like to learn. That is, anything involving your kid's homework problems, which I really don't give a damn about.

But I didn't, I suppose because I've come to realize that some people are just basically hopeless. But what is it with these aging baby boomers who still help their high-school kids out of schoolwork jams and generally continue to treat them like helpless baby birds? Does it have something to do with the parents’ belonging to the when-am-I-gonna-start-feeling-like-a-grownup generation? Do they therefore assume that their own kids should never be expected to behave like grownups?

This seems to be the tacit message of a Morgan Stanley ad I’ve noticed lately in upscale magazines. “Three car payments. Three private colleges. Three weddings,” it begins. A photograph spread over two pages shows three girls in expensive party dresses, evidently sisters, lounging on an equally expensive looking couch. It's an excellent photo, by the way; the girls are pretty but not superhumanly beautiful, like obvious models, and their expressions really do make them seem like sisters: one looks smug, another skeptical, and the third slightly annoyed.

The ad text continues: “I think I am having chest pains. How are we going to pay for all this? Invest? Invest in what? The market is more unpredictable than our daughters.” Then the tag says: “Emotional times require sound, unemotional financial advice.”

Now if these girls come from such a rich family that private colleges and new cars and expensive weddings are their birthright, then lucky them and three cheers for their generous daddy. But if the thought of how to pay for all this gives the unseen narrator chest pains, then here's some sound, unemotional financial advice: Maybe that family ought to rethink what those girls should expect. Maybe everyone would be better off if one or all of them drove used cars, went to public universities and didn't feel entitled to fairy princess weddings at the Pierre. And maybe that wouldn't be the end of the world.

Which brings me to an article I noticed recently in the Los Angeles Times about how college waiting lists favor well-off applicants. Students who need financial aid sometimes find it's used up by the time the college delves into its waiting list.

The photo for the Times piece showed a Los Angeles high-school senior named Alex Lee who has his heart set on Reed College in Oregon. The problem is that because he is only wait-listed at Reed, Alex doesn't know whether he'll be able to afford to go there; Reed has offered admission to 15 waiting-list applicants, but so far not Alex, because he needs financial aid and there might not be enough.

Gee, that sounds kind of rough, that a bright kid (Alex scored 1440 on his SATs) should be disappointed like that. Until you get almost to the end of the story, way down on the jump, where it's revealed that Alex Lee is not just any old high-school senior — he’s graduating from Harvard-Westlake, one of the most exclusive (and expensive) private high-schools in the country. So we're not exactly talking here about a plucky, struggling boy who earned those high SAT scores despite the bad break of having to attend a poor or mediocre school.

But then comes the real kicker: Alex Lee has been accepted, with a financial-aid package, to Pitzer, an excellent southern California school very similar to Reed in that it’s a small, prestigious liberal arts college. He's also been accepted at USC, a fine university that hasn't made him a financial-aid offer yet, but (as the Times piece mentioned in passing) is one of the most well-endowed schools in the country and probably will.

So what, exactly, is the tragedy here? If money is a problem for this family, shouldn't the added transportation costs of attending a distant school make Reed less attractive than one close to home? Apparently not.

“I wish there was some better way to help kids have a chance to go to the school of their choice,” Alex Lee's dad, sounding rather poignant, told the Times. Well, here’s a thought: Maybe the better way would be to help kids realize that when they’ve been accepted at two first-rate colleges, which will cost far less than a third that’s only offered a place on the waitlist with no financial aid, then perhaps it’s time to reconsider what should be the school of their choice.


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KEYWORDS: children; kids; parenting; parents
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When I was a teenager, my folks bought me a 10 year old car and helped me pay for college at the state U. I was pretty clueless about the cost of things at that time, but even then I was grateful for what they gave me. I sure didn't expect them to go into debt so I could have a fancy car or a gold-plated diploma.
1 posted on 06/02/2005 6:33:25 PM PDT by Huntress
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To: Huntress
Well, I went to college in the 70's and I had to buy my own car and had 15 years of tuition debt but by God I paid every last dime and I am proud of it. That is the best education you can give your kids, self sufficiency.
2 posted on 06/02/2005 6:45:14 PM PDT by St.Mark
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To: Huntress

Some people don't have enough tragedy in their lives that they have to invent some.


3 posted on 06/02/2005 6:46:14 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Huntress
Some parents live vicariously through their children. They need to get their own life and stop doting over Jr. It's pathetic.
4 posted on 06/02/2005 6:47:35 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell (I will never again read another thing by Christopher Hitchens!)
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To: St.Mark

I think it all depends on the child.

I was given everything: a new car at 16 and a college education.

I became a software engineer, and now I'm a SAHM. I'll probably go back to work to pay for my kids to have cars and go to college.

My husband had to work his way through college. It was very difficult for him. I don't want my kids to do that. They'll have enough trials and tribulations after college.

I think if your child is grateful for what they are given, then that is what is important.


5 posted on 06/02/2005 6:50:40 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Huntress
My parents were what most would call "upper middle-class". I paid for my first car by working with a brick layer during the summer and borrowing the rest from my Dad.

He taught me a lot about the value of hard work, saving, investing, and so on. I'll be forever grateful.
6 posted on 06/02/2005 6:51:29 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Huntress
...so obviously it had been her calling repeatedly all night — the way people do when they're trying to flush you out rather than simply leave a message that might be ignored.

I solved this problem by just not having voicemail and putting the ringer off on my landline. All my loved ones have my cell number - I haven't answered my landline in almost three years! ;-)

7 posted on 06/02/2005 6:53:45 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: luckystarmom

"I think it depends on the child."

Agreed. My hubby and I are able to give our son more than we ever had. He's a good kid on the honor roll....which he works very very hard to accomplish.


8 posted on 06/02/2005 6:54:53 PM PDT by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Jaysun

I was the oldest of 9 children. I worked 3 jobs through college and had a full tuition scholarship. I worked hard but still graduated summa cum laude. Best thing that ever happened to me by the sweat of my own brow. My first car cost $150 and I paid cash for it. Kids today are spoiled, indulged brats and still they are miserable. Not my kids. Not gonna happen.


9 posted on 06/02/2005 6:57:39 PM PDT by msamizdat
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To: Huntress
I suppose because I've come to realize that some people are just basically hopeless.

I came to that conclusion in my mid-20s! Though I am a bit more overinclusive - I think 'most' people are just basically hopeless: see why I don't answer my phones?

10 posted on 06/02/2005 6:57:39 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Huntress

My parents funded my college education 100%, because they wanted to, and because they could afford to, because of the following:

1. I went to the local community college and took college transfer courses. It's much cheaper, and the basic freshman and sophomore level English, science, history and math courses aren't any different from those at a 4 year university. The added bonus, at least at the community college I attended, was that I mixed with people of all ages, many of whom lived in the 'real world' and had 'real jobs', not just college-age kids, so by the time I transferred to university and dorm-living, I was 21 and didn't go ape**** with the partying and independence and flunk out after the 1st year, like so many college freshman do.

2. I transferred to an in-state, public university. There was absolutely no reason to go outside North Carolina in order to get a good education.


11 posted on 06/02/2005 6:57:44 PM PDT by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opium of the activist wacko.)
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To: Huntress

No child of mine will ever do a "team homework project". Schools are intruding massively on the lives of children and their families with all sorts of needlessly time-consuming busy work. When will parents learn to just say NO?

I recall an article in Time magazine a few years back about this problem. Especially loading up elementary school kids with homework and "projects", despite that fact that no research on the subject has ever been able to show any academic achievement benefit to homework prior to the high school level. One father, a former school teacher himself, had the guts to simply inform his daughter's school that she would not be completing any homework assignments, period. And who cares if the teachers trash the kids grades for that -- elementary school grades don't matter!


12 posted on 06/02/2005 7:02:07 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: wimpycat

Why do people feel they have to apologize for having generous parents? My parents gave me alot financially, and I gave them alot back spiritually with love and devotion. I am not ashamed, nor should anyone be for having a wonderful family.


13 posted on 06/02/2005 7:02:14 PM PDT by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: wimpycat
The added bonus, at least at the community college I attended, was that I mixed with people of all ages, many of whom lived in the 'real world' and had 'real jobs', not just college-age kids...

I went from high school to college to law school with no time in between. A mistake, in retrospect. I think a year or so of work (or a 2 year stint in the military) in between high school and college is preferred and adds a LOT of maturity in a relatively short time.

Further, I think a lot of the liberal mindset that passes for critical thinking at colleges passes the smell test of relatively naive children (and lets be honest, the typical college student these days is still a 'child' in many ways). The same stuff wouldn't pass the smell test of even a slightly more seasoned young adult who took a year off to work at a crappy, dead-end job, or served in the armed forces.

14 posted on 06/02/2005 7:03:54 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Huntress

Wow! She sure had a lot to say.

I initially thought the point of her article was to lambaste people for making obnoxious phone calls, especially late at night. But it really blossomed into a story about spoiled kids!

She makes many excellent points.


15 posted on 06/02/2005 7:15:23 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: msamizdat
Kids today are spoiled, indulged brats and still they are miserable. Not my kids. Not gonna happen.

Not going to happen to mine either. They're out at 18, we're changing our locks.
16 posted on 06/02/2005 7:22:53 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Huntress

For over a year, I rec'd 3 consecutive calls once a week. When I answered, I rec'd the beeping like someone trying to send a fax. I finally started letting my message center take the calls. The frequency stretched to once a month. It's now once about 3 months. I have no idea who is doing it, but I sure could do some damage to their ears if I ever find out.


17 posted on 06/02/2005 7:26:53 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Huntress

It was the '70's. Everything was going great, then Menudo broke up, and the New Orleans Police went on strike during Mardis Gras. :o(


18 posted on 06/02/2005 7:32:40 PM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: luckystarmom
My husband had to work his way through college. It was very difficult for him. I don't want my kids to do that. They'll have enough trials and tribulations after college.

Your husband learned some very valuable "life lessons" during his "difficult" time.

He had to work very hard for what he wanted.

How do you expect your children to be prepared for "enough trials and tribulations after college" - if they drive on 'easy street' (Mom and Dad will pay) until after college?

Just MO, but that is not the way my kids are going through college. Mom and Dad will certainly help, but they are going to have to work for it.

Again, just MO.

LVM

19 posted on 06/02/2005 7:40:39 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: Arpege92
I was wondering why so often goodness is associated with good grades? Not saying that your child isn't good AND smart, but our society puts too much emphasis on grades and education and not on the quality of the person's morals and conscience. If I had to choose, I would prefer a doofus with a heart of gold.
20 posted on 06/02/2005 7:59:25 PM PDT by Free2BeMe
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