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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: the Deejay

The pics are gone now???

Via sm:

This is a post on Dan's website (not an article from Dan, just a post):

think it's not as easy to dump a body in a quarry in Aruba as you may think. Most people
in Aruba are afraid of them because in the past
a lot of people/children drowned in them.
There are 2 quarry's currently in question.
The one being searched is at Moko and I have some shots of the search. It is much bigger than the one that was showed on Hanity & Colmes show.
There are also a lot of houses around it but at night you could throw something in it and not be seen.

rgds,
Ho


2,961 posted on 06/27/2005 1:25:42 PM PDT by maggief
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To: elli1

She was surely wearing shoes
and a dress though.

Maybe she had more than
one purse.

Shoes easily come off
during an attack.

One shoe drops here....
another drops there.


2,962 posted on 06/27/2005 1:27:22 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay


It's unlikely. I agree with that. Let's see what they find, if anything.


2,963 posted on 06/27/2005 1:27:45 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: maggiefluffs

2,964 posted on 06/27/2005 1:28:18 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs


The pics were gone when I tried to look.


2,965 posted on 06/27/2005 1:28:57 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: maggiefluffs

The pics on Yahoo's bb on
message #488? It was there
when I linked to it.


2,966 posted on 06/27/2005 1:29:09 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay; maggiefluffs; TexKat; Yaelle; brigette
Even if they find her body, I dare say it will be near impossible to prove JVDS did the murder. Especially, if she's been in water this period of time, there won't be any forensics to show who, what, how, when.

Hence, it could have been anyone. And the ones currently in custody will be released. Everyone goes home and the murder or mystery will never be solved.


You'd be surprised what a good forensic team can find. There may be trace evidence of a drug that was used on Natalee, etc. I'm hoping the Holloway/Twitty families have made arrangements for a good autopsy & forensics team. Does anyone know about Aruban laws regarding dead bodies?
2,967 posted on 06/27/2005 1:29:10 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: maggiefluffs


Your #2964 -- where's that?


2,968 posted on 06/27/2005 1:30:36 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: maggiefluffs
Your link to the yahoo group: in it I noticed the poster's name (Oduber). I wonder if any relations to the Prime Minister Nelson Oduber.
2,969 posted on 06/27/2005 1:31:01 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: maggiefluffs

Can't see the pics, darn it. Tried two browsers.


2,971 posted on 06/27/2005 1:31:31 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: demkicker


It's been 4 weeks. If there's fish in the water, no tissue will remain.


2,972 posted on 06/27/2005 1:31:55 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: the Deejay

Could you post the other pic? I'm unable to for some reason.


2,973 posted on 06/27/2005 1:31:58 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs

Yeah, that's one of the pics
I saw on the Yahoo bb.

It looks a whole lot better
than when Greta was there.
Last week, it looked like
the black hole.

I wonder if they are looking
in a different quarry, than
what we saw on tv last week?


2,974 posted on 06/27/2005 1:32:17 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: maggiefluffs

I've no idea how to post a pic!
LOL!

There really isn't much difference
in the other pic. Both look pretty
much alike.


2,975 posted on 06/27/2005 1:33:29 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: onyx

This is all I have:

From: Hyro Oduber
Date: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:12 pm
Subject: Today's search


2,976 posted on 06/27/2005 1:33:33 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs

Thanks for sharing!


2,977 posted on 06/27/2005 1:33:56 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: the Deejay

Post the url and I can post the pic.


2,978 posted on 06/27/2005 1:34:24 PM PDT by maggief
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To: monkeywrench
Go to the wayback machine website with the url of his site.

Thanks!
2,979 posted on 06/27/2005 1:34:36 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: maggiefluffs


Good enough. Thank you maggie.


2,980 posted on 06/27/2005 1:35:04 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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