Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[maggief]

Yes, I think I found a clue. LOL

Those pictures tell quite a story. You can see what may have been the set up to Natalee's demise.

[stlnative]

Carlos'N Charlies
Carlos'N Charlies in Aruba...taken from the front of the ship
http://image32.webshots.com/32/3/47/10/269434710GZfhSB_ph.jpg

[TexKat]

The suspicion of Natalee is in the disappearance of Natalee not the coverup per Mariaine Croes.

[pamlet]

Yeah those pictures are enlightening about what goes on with young people today...

One thing tho' I know over the years as I've been flipping through the channels I've caught the "spring break" shows on MTV ... same stuff happens .. and that's usually here in the states...

[Howlin]

God, she is so pitiful. Just so sad.

[Howlin]

I heard that; he's a SUSPECT in her disappearance, not helping them afterwards, is that what you heard?

[Palladin]

Thanks for the ping and the updates.

maggie--those pics of Steve Croese are something else. Quite the party guy. And all those dumb tourist women hanging all over him! He's not that goodlooking.

Poor women who go on vacation looking for love in all the wrong places! They should watch that old Kathryn Hepburn movie where the old maid schoolteacher goes to Venice and....well...

[demkicker]

I'll say one thing about the Holloway & Twitty families. These people know how to organize and be effective. They have gotten the world's attention focused on Natalee and are to be admired for their tireless efforts under such excruciating circumstances. They must come from wonderful communities and have many wonderful friends.

Let's pray that this nightmare will soon be over for them.

[maggief]

Do you still have that pic of the Dutch boy on stage at Cn'C's ... the one I dubbed "plaid shirt alert?"

I take what 'Dash' has said with a grain of salt, but didn't she say Natalee was on stage "dancing" with JvdS? Perhaps it wasn't dancing but the booty games.

(Note to all: I'm not judging Natalee, just trying to determine motive and premeditation.)

[TexKat]

Correction:

The suspicion of Natalee is in the disappearance of Natalee not the coverup per Mariaine Croes.

The suspicion of Natalee s/b Paulus Van der Sloot is in the disappearance of Natalee not the coverup per Mariaine Croes.

[Pepper777]

" They're saying the man who was partially decapitated was a suicide? "

I don't think the man found in the cemetary was a suicide. I'm sure I heard there was a bloody scene in his house, which his wife found upon returning home from her job at one of the hotels.

[TexKat]

I heard that; he's a SUSPECT in her disappearance, not helping them afterwards, is that what you heard?

You've got it!!

[demkicker]

I'm signing off for tonight. Gonna get in bed and watch Greta, then beddy bye. Will have to check back in tomorrow :)

[TexKat]

Goodnight demkicker.

[maggief]

It's an eye opener, that's for sure.

[stlnative]

Ok... so PVDS has something to do with her missing.

(really off the wall - please put your tin foil hats on)
Maybe Daddy is in debt, maybe he and Joran blew the family savings on gambling while Mommy was away. Daddy knows someone who will pay a high dollar for a young blond American girl. He has Joran hook up with one or has him slip GHB into her drink. They meet up with the human traffickers and make the exchange.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

And Mommy VDS is a text book case of denial (about her sweet little boy) in action.

[AUsome Joy]

I agree. I never watch Greta, but have the past few nights and I have been so impressed with her reporting. She was something going into the house of the parents and tonight she goes to the home of the Kalpoe parents. Her interviews may help to blow this whole thing apart.

[maggief]

Yes, and why is it called "Steve's boat?"

[Palladin]

Every parent should see these photos and be made aware of what goes on during these spring break and grad trips to Aruba. Do the parents really want to pay for this debauchery?

Sadly, the disappearance of Natalee has become the wake-up call.