Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[maggief]

Okay, Jossy Mansur on Greta's show stated police chief van der Staten's (godfather/best friend?) contract is up on the 10th or 15th and not being renewed. "There were differences."

[Mo1]

It's the side they were on; if they put her out there, she's way gone.

I think she is way gone ... and I think the father knows all about it

And unless a miracle happens .. they will get off scott free

[onyx]

Exactly and by PVDS's own admission, they only "took his statement." After all, he worked with many of them -- they;re his "friends."

Try to go, kcvl -- I can donate $100 to you to help with your expenses.

[kcvl]

but that if they disposed of her on the other side .. that she would go out to sea

Dr. Boden said that her body would float (OMG!) back up if they disposed of her in the ocean even if it were several hundred feet out because the water is so warm. He said he thinks she is on the island.

[Howlin]

I'm beginning to agree; if I was that prosecutor, if they walk, I'd release EVERY SINGLE one of those text messages and emails, etc.

They may be able to stonewall their way out of it, but I'd make damn sure everyboyd KNEW they were "manipulating" in the middle of the night for SOME reason.

[maggief]

When the new judge came on board you could sense the case was about to unravel.

[Howlin]

I just do NOT understand why they cannot find her.

I think whatever happened to her, Papa took care of it while Joran went to school to take his exams.

After all, the Twittys didn't get there until 11 P.M. that night; he had all day long.

[onyx]

Exactly, that;s the reason for the father's sage advice "no body, no crime." They would have needed a boat and some weights.

Like my daughter in the Cayman's told me, once you pass the barrier reef, it's "good-bye" if the body is weighted down, the fish take care of it within 3-5 days.

[beyond the sea]

You are completely correct in everything you said.

Mark is a very good and intelligent guy! And I appreciate his suspicions in the Terri book too.

[Mo1]

true .. but don't forget about what is out in that ocean

[Howlin]

I can donate $100 to you to help with your expenses.

Hell, who wouldn't pay good money to see her coldcock somebody down there? :-)

[onyx]

Yep, and come Monday, the judge just might release all of them, unless they have some new evidence that we don't know about.

[Howlin]

Mansur looked very discouraged.

[onyx]

LOL! And kcvl could coldcock some folks on Greta;s show so we could see her in action...lol.'

[kcvl]

Just tell me where to send the bail money, honey.

You know I would need someone to get me out of jail! At least I wouldn't let anyone else in there sleep until I got answers. I don't think I would mind causing a little hell for those *astards. It would be well worth my time!

[maggief]

A boat and some weights? We're back to SC, the former dj/night watchman who slept on the Tattoo and must have had access to the water taxi.

[onyx]

Unless they had access to a boat, I think she;s on the island too. I know thatl ocals always have favorite secret spots where tourists never venture.

[Howlin]

"In a related story, a small unknown woman from the United States appeared in Aruba today, drove the to the VDS home, rang the bell, jumped the gate and smacked the every living crap out of Papa VDS."

"Film at 11:00."

[onyx]

Yep, and maybe another boat. Easy to "borrow" a boat at night, but not so easy to navigate the boat at night "IF" there's coral reefs. I am not familiar with the Aruban waters.

[onyx]

I agree. Papa is in on it too. In fact, he's calling the shots after the fact.

I'm about ready to crash.