Clinton wades into GTA sex storm

BBC ^ | 14 July, 2005 | Unknown

[bookworm100]

Senator Hillary Clinton has stepped into the controversy over sex scenes in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

The senator wants the US Federal Trade Commission to find out who put the explicit material in the game…

The downloadable mod was put together by Dutch GTA fan Patrick Wildenborg and is said to unlock mini-games in the recently-released PC version of San Andreas that lets players make game characters have sex….

The PlayStation 2 version of San Andreas was the best-selling game of 2004 in the US.

[smiley]

.....oh pluzzeee...maybe Hillary should check with her husband...

[Landru]

"I, for one, am glad someone is calling for this practice to be stopped. Porn is porn is porn."

Amen to that.

And what's with the XXX shops I see around using the word "ADULT" [entertainment] on their signs, anyway.
Those places are for anyone *except* "Adults".

Why not "P&P", for "Pigs & Perverts"?
Would be a lot more honest, accurate & to the point.

...but not "Adult".

[freedomson]

Real sex in the oval office with a girl your daughter's age is okay.

Virtual sex in a video game, bad.

Got it.

[speed_addiction]

Sorry Hitlery you loose, I monitor my kids gaming I don't need you telling me how to deal with games. but out.

GTA in all of it's incarnations has never been a kid's game. The distributors have gone out of their way to let the press and public know that it is a MATURE game. Any parent who buys this game for their kids is an idiot.


With Howard Dean the dems have formally graduated from "disarray" to "debacle", with "irretrievable disaster" just around the corner.

[KC_Conspirator]

Why? Because I completed my "Pimping Missions" and they actually PAY ME to have sex in a parking lot!

[tsomer]

The downloadable mod was put together by Dutch GTA fan Patrick Wildenborg and is said to unlock mini-games in the recently-released PC version...

So am I right to infer that the retail version does not contain this modification, that the user has to go online, seek it, download and install it?

I doubt anything comes of this beyond the publicity it generates for PIAPS, and the record she will cite during her upcoming campaigns as evidence of her concern for "the village." Of course these campaigns will be funded by the people who promote this garbage.

This woman's cynicism is beyond belief.

[ghost of nixon]

Aren't we talking about a video game that glorifies property theft and reckless driving? How does some animated porn make this much worse?

[markman46]

My "kid" is 23 and he bought it himself, I still monitor what is brought into my house tho, I was speaking in generalities, it's parental responsibility not Congress's responsibility to decide what is best for children.

[bookworm100]

Remember Hillary's Christmas trees?


"The GSA, Park Service, and Residence maintenance staff had erected all the trees. Some staff were on high ladders, hanging evergreen garlands. We gathered around folding tables to unpack the ornament boxes.

"It took about ten seconds to get the first reaction: 'What in the world?'

"Then another: 'What the hell?'

"Then another: 'Look at this thing! What is it?'

"'Hillary's ornaments is what!'

"From one end of the hall to the other, about forty people were picking up these 'things,' staring at them, turning them around, trying to figure them out or stifle their embarrassed laughter. I turned to one of my team members. 'What are these things?'

"'I heard the theme is The Twelve Days of Christmas, as interpreted by art students from around the country. Hillary sent a letter out just two months ago, really late actually, asking budding artists to send in an interpretation of The Twelve Days of Christmas, and this is what they came up with.'

"I couldn't believe what I was looking at. 'This stuff is just childish garbage! We can't hang this stuff on any White House Christmas tree! This is a bad joke.'

"'Gary, the orders from the first lady's office are to hang these. It's what she wants, so we have to hang them. Anyway, many of them are from "blue ribbon" art schools, as designated by the Secretary of Education. The whole administration has a stake in this.'

"'Well, if this is blue ribbon, then we're in serious trouble, educationally.' I pulled out one ornament that was five real onion rings ("five golden rings") glued to a white styrofoam tray, with a hook attached to the back so it could be hung. But where? Maybe in Bill Clinton's bedroom so he could rip off a midnight snack?

"I was disgusted, but some of it was actually pretty funny.

"'Gary, come here, look at this!' It was a mobile of twelve lords-a-leaping. They were leaping, all right. The ornament consisted of tiny clay male figurines. Each was naked and had an enormous erection. My friend said, 'Whoops!' and dropped it on the floor. Then, 'Oh, no!' as he stomped on it. He joked, 'Man, I hope I don't get in trouble with Hillary for that!'

"Some of the ornaments were silly and some were dangerous, like the crack pipes hung on a string. We couldn't figure out what crack pipes had to do with Christmas no matter how hard we tried, so we threw them back in the box. Some ornaments were constructed out of various drug paraphenalia, like syringes, heroin spoons, or roach clips, which are colorful devices sometimes adorned with bird feathers and used to hold marijuana joints.

"Two turtle doves became two figurines that had the shells of turtles but the heads of birds; there were many of these. Four calling birds were - you guessed it - birds with a telephone, and there were at least two miniature phone booths with four birds inside using the telephone. There was a partridge in a pear, without the tree - a clay pear with a severed partridge head sticking out of it. Three French hens were French-kissing in a menage a trois. So many of the ornaments didn't celebrate Christmas as much as they celebrated sex, drugs, and rock & roll. Several of the birds had dark glasses and were blowing saxophones.

"'Hey, Gary. Come over here.' I walked over. It was another leaping lords ornament. Each 'lord' had a wooden body with a photograph of Rush Limbaugh for a head. A dozen dittoheads, suitable for hanging, but nobody had the guts to hang Rush Limbaugh from Hillary's tree, so back in the box it went....

"I went over to one of the tables I hadn't look at yet. What's this? Of course. Two turtle doves, but they didn't have shells this time - they were joined together in an act of bird fornication.

"I picked up another ornament that was supposed to illustrate five golden rings. One of the male florist volunteers grabbed my arm and laughed and laughed.

"'What's so funny? What are you laughing at?'

"'Don't you know what you're holding?'

"No, I didn't, but he was happy to explain it to me: the golden rings I was holding were sex toys know as 'cock rings' - and they had nothing to do with chickens.

"Another mystery ornament was the gingerbread man. How did he fit into The Twelve Days of Christmas? Then I got it. There were five small, golden rings I hadn't seen at first: one in his ear, one in his nose, one through his nipple, one through his belly button, and, of course, they ever-popular cock ring.

"I couldn't believe the disrespect that these ornaments represented. Many of the artists invited to make and send something to hang on the tree must have had nothing by disgust, hatred, and disrespect for the White House and the citizens of this country, a disgust obviously encouraged by the first lady in the name of 'artistic freedom.'"

At http://hardstarboard.blogspot.com/2004/11/clinton-presidential-landfill.html

[CBart95]

She sure fits perfectly into this idiotic reality.

Say bye bye Hillary!

[Mia T]

For the children?
the clintons ARE pornography downloads

[Arthalion]

That depends on who you believe. The mods author claims that the code and XXX content were already in the game, but were simply disabled and inaccessible. He says his mod does nothing other than activate the already present content.

Rockstar claims that the author is lying, and that the whole mod is a user-created customization.

If Rockstar is right, then they did nothing wrong and Clinton will look (even more) like an idiot. If the author is telling the truth, however, then Rockstar may actually be in some legal trouble. ESRB ratings are now encoded in the laws of several states, including laws governing the sales of mature content to minors, and if Rockstar failed to have their game properly rated for explicit sexual content they could get nailed under several different federal and state laws.

If the author is telling the truth (which looks likely, because this would be trivial for Rockstar to debunk if he weren't), then it appears that the code may have been for a minigame or cutscene that Rockstar decided to cut from the final product. Unlike movies where a cut scene is gone for good, disabled software features can still be accessed if the source code isn't deliberately removed. All it took was a hacker clever enough to figure out how the code worked and recreate the pieces that Rockstar removed while disabling it.

[Libloather]

Actual comic character displayed at the end of the game -

"There is no doubting the fact that the widespread availability of sexually explicit and graphically violent video games makes the challenge of parenting much harder."
Senator Hilary Clinton

[Dan from Michigan]

Hey Hillary. I have GTA. Got a problem with that. Too damn bad.

[Dan from Michigan]

Is Hillary "a professional moron, or just a gifted amateur?"

[tsomer]

Unlike movies where a cut scene is gone for good, disabled software features can still be accessed if the source code isn't deliberately removed.

Thanks for filling me in. Very plausible. I guess the question now is, how will the courts see it? If it were one of us stupid Republican bumpkins deciding the case, we'd probably consider the code vestigial, for all intents and purposes absent and accessible only by malicious, deliberate, violation of the integrity of the coded, copyrighted material and decide the fault lies with the outside party.

The Dims have a more "nuanced" view of course, and I'm afraid the majority of the judges are Dims.

Tell me, how big is this company? Are they owned to any degree by any of the big conglomerates? If not, this explains Piaps' concern for our children.

[Liz]

Her timing is off.

[Libloather]

Her timing is off.

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