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Getting into the world of firearms
Townhall.com ^ | September 27, 2005 | Mike S. Adams

Posted on 09/27/2005 5:35:15 AM PDT by beaureguard

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To: AnAmericanMother

I don't have time to reload standard caliber stuff, let alone "exotics".


81 posted on 09/27/2005 8:58:27 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: mbynack

My friend buys guns as a hobby.Quite a collection. I have several myself.


82 posted on 09/27/2005 9:05:15 AM PDT by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: mbynack

Yep, this guy is off base. 12 gauge, yes, the mini-14 or better yet a mini-30, yes. 357/38 is a good first handgun. Skip th 22 magnum, just get a 22 LR and buy hundreds of round for the price of 50 mags. I don't know why he's suggesting a 454 to a newbee.


83 posted on 09/27/2005 9:06:40 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Islam is a terrorist organization.)
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To: beaureguard
I am thinking of getting a .22 pistol (maybe a Walther P22) for my first gun and to learn about shooting together with my son. He got a Walther P22 Airsoft gun that feels fantastic in my hand, which got me thinking about this.

Any recommendations or feedback from all of you gun experts out there will be appreciated.

84 posted on 09/27/2005 9:06:43 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic (You cannot stop me, I'll just make..........a "move"....)
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic

No personal experience with it but the Walther P22 has a good reputation.


85 posted on 09/27/2005 9:08:34 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
I don't understand why so many are down on the .22 magnum. It is an excellent round, at least out of a rifle.

If I could only own one gun, it would probably be a .22 LR with the possible exception of a shotgun, but the .22 mag is useful for a lot of medium sized game and even for self defense. It has more than twice the energy of the .22LR and about the same as a .45 auto.

I have noted in killing varmints and feral animals that it is much quicker to kill than a regular .22 when shot in the body.

86 posted on 09/27/2005 9:15:00 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: holymoly
Its the 30-round magazine that make it assault dontcha know. The 10-round magazine make it a plinker.
87 posted on 09/27/2005 9:21:10 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways "Guero")
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To: AnAmericanMother
You KNOW things are getting bad when you have to invest in a second gun safe . . . and that's just for the ones that aren't junk guns for the pickup, house guns, or carry guns . . . < ouch! >

I thought 2 safes was a minimum in Texas. At least it is if you share a a surname with me. When I build a new house, it will have a vault. I will still have the 2 gun safes, but will soon be needing the vault too.

88 posted on 09/27/2005 9:22:50 AM PDT by NationalistVisionary (Who will be America's Charles Martel?)
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To: Squantos

*Ping*

Hey, you guys woke me up! I usually sleep under the gunshop porch. Cozy there.

Anyhoo....while I wait for the Squantos to check in, once he regains consciousness from all that Hoppes #9 he uses as aftershave....may as well...he's going to smell like it anyway, with all the guns he uses...

Muttly SOP requires the most available cartridges, in the most reliable (military proven) actions. This comes down to 12ga.-3", .357 Magnum, 9mm, .44 Magnum, .45ACP .22LR, .223, .30'06......and perhaps .30-30 and .308.

Note on shotguns, often overlooked...but for general utility use, and certainly for practical bug-out survival, the side-by-side with double triggers is one of the very best, though perhaps least glamorous choices. It is available with shorter barrels, choke tubes, can be had or modified to have a pistol grip, is intuitive in operation, has 2 firing pins, can choose between 2 loads and chokes, is shorter and lighter than pumps and autos, that is, legal overall length can be made with longer barrel length...something worth having...and can even fire BOTH barrels at once, if need be...and it sometimes is.


89 posted on 09/27/2005 9:54:02 AM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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To: beaureguard

bttt


90 posted on 09/27/2005 9:55:43 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Disambiguator

I can't AFFORD NOT to reload . . . what with me, my hubby, and the two kids, plus our friends that tend to go out to the range with us, we burn up a heckuva lot of ammo. And even though the 10/22 is my son's favorite rifle, not everybody wants to shoot that one (my daughter likes the Garand.)


91 posted on 09/27/2005 10:00:19 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: PoorMuttly
While I'm not a survivalist weirdo....

Then why are we here muttly ?.......:o)

92 posted on 09/27/2005 10:02:41 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: OldSgt.
"All on this thread have said this without saying it. The best firearm is the one each person is proficient with. My this or that, is no better if it cannot be used effectively when needed"

From my earlier post : "Here is where the user needs to evaluate themselves and the level of commitment they do (or don't) have to develop the skills necessary to become proficient with their "tool" of choice."

93 posted on 09/27/2005 10:06:03 AM PDT by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves..........)
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To: Squantos

We're here to hold an intelligent conversation for the benefit of regular people....not writer weirdos. When TSHTF, and all this wise man has with him is his .454 and 6 extra rounds.....he'll change his tune....but everyone he advised will still be out looking for a couple more .22 Mags...and wondering what went wrong!


94 posted on 09/27/2005 10:08:40 AM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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To: PoorMuttly

...now...OTOH...a Desert Eagle in .256 Win. Mag, with an extra .357 barrel may not be too bad.....!

(there I go again.......I know...I know.)


95 posted on 09/27/2005 10:13:34 AM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I like the Ruger Auto's because they have exposed hammers and double action combined with the decock lever makes keeping one in the chamber simpler.

I love my Glock 30, but I'm VERY careful when I reholster in my CCW vest. I usually take the vest off and reholster.

I've been very happy with the Rugers I own. One my my biggest mistakes was getting rid of my old Blackhawk. I wish I had that one to do over again.

96 posted on 09/27/2005 10:16:15 AM PDT by mbynack
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To: PoorMuttly

A .256 Win Mag Ruger Hawkeye isn't much more questionable than some of the things listed in the article.


97 posted on 09/27/2005 10:17:12 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: mbynack

I miss my Super Blackhawk. The glock is nice weapon but I like simple.


98 posted on 09/27/2005 10:17:43 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. The DNC is his first stop.)
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To: ElTianti

Sure do.

I picked up a nice Glock 21 with a Dynamic Finishes Inc. Desert Camo water-transfer paintjob. Added an M-6 laser/flashlight to the rail...it is sweet!!!!


99 posted on 09/27/2005 10:25:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: yarddog
22 Mag has more than twice the energy of the .22LR and about the same as a .45 auto.

"The standard 40 grain bullet is now advertised to have a muzzle velocity of 1,910 fps in a 22" rifle barrel and carries 324 ft. lbs. of energy. From the 6.5" barrel of a revolver the velocity is 1400 fps with an energy of 174 ft. lbs"

45 ACP out of a six inch barrel has about 495 ft/lbs of energy.

Comparing both in a handgun, the 45 has almost three times the muzzle energy.

100 posted on 09/27/2005 10:28:30 AM PDT by mbynack
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