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Helen Of Troy Existed?
The Discovery Channel ^ | 10-18-2005 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 10/18/2005 11:08:43 AM PDT by blam

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To: apro

Hey watching Hercules on TV, there were Blacks running all around ancient Greece. I never understood the obsession people have now to make every place in history of mixed ethnicity.


101 posted on 10/21/2005 2:45:23 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: wideawake

And when did they come over here and open all of those diners???


102 posted on 10/21/2005 2:54:26 PM PDT by Brofholdonow
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To: Styria

My mother's side of the family is from Sparta (she came over in the 1950's). We are all rather fair-skinned for Greeks. My hair was blond when I was young, but it gradually darkened over the years. When I was young, my friends would call me "Casper" (as in the friendly ghost) because I had very pale skin. I have green eyes, same as my grandmother. Not all Greeks are dark.


103 posted on 10/21/2005 2:58:21 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam
This is an interesting article, but I've recently been reading about a different take on the Trojan War. Iman Wilkens, a European economist and avid Homer fan, had often been perplexed by the geographical inconsistencies in the Illiad and began doing research in his spare time to try and figure out why.

He concluded that the Trojan War was actually fought in Cambridgeshire England by the Celts (Homer never actually calls the attacking forces the Greeks, but rather the Achaens, which means Sea People) and that the most likely cause of the war was the abundance of tin in the region, a vital material in the production of bronze, which was very rare in ancient Europe.

First editions of his book Where Troy Once Stood are fetching over $500 on E-bay, if you can find one, but he has recently released another edition.

Here is his website, http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/trojan-kings-of-england/trojan-kings-of-england.htm

Check it out and see if you can find a copy of his book at the library. It is the product of a life-long passion and is meticulously researched and documented. He has pretty much convinced me.

104 posted on 10/21/2005 3:16:15 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("Those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.")
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To: swain_forkbeard
The little guy, Alexander, was played by the same actor who played archvillian Megalito Lovelace on the Wild Wild West.

The late Michael Dunn.

105 posted on 10/21/2005 3:21:14 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you decide to kick the tiger in the ass...you'd better be prepared to deal with the teeth.)
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To: NathanR

No, Athena was known for her wisdom, Penelope for her loyalty but the other three - Helen, Aphrodite and Persephone - were known as the most beautiful women in all Greek mythology.

Helen - well we know her story

Aphrodite - as well as her's

Persephone - also known as Kore, the Flower-Maid, the Mistress, the Iron Queen, the Pale Queen. Persephone was apparently very beautiful to the point that Aphrodite's daughter in-law, Psyche, fell into a coma when she opened the box which held the mystery and intrigue of the Queen’s beauty. Her beauty, while a testament to all that was good and pure, attracted the unwanted attentions of many men and one of them happened to be the Lord of the underworld, Hades, and with some help from Aphrodite, Persephone became unwillingly the Queen of the Underworld.


106 posted on 10/21/2005 6:17:24 PM PDT by apro
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To: Stonewall Jackson

There's also Edo Nyland, who adopted as his own the idea that the Odyssey actually refers to a voyage in the Hebrides etc, while Samuel Butler claimed that the Odyssey was written by a woman living in colonial Greek Sicily. As a sidebar, Eberhard Zangger claims that Plato's tale of Atlantis actually was sourced in Egypt, but references the Trojan War, and that Plato et al never recognized the national epic of Greece in the details.


107 posted on 10/21/2005 10:34:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The problem with these odd theories is the original Odyssey is full of named places which existed in the Mediterranean at the time.


108 posted on 11/08/2005 4:20:09 PM PST by Shanda
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To: Shanda

(': The reason that the odd theories have any credibility (although I don't regard Samuel Butler's as all that odd) is that the Odyssey's author, whomever it was, gives some descriptions of the places that don't match the supposed actual places. :')


109 posted on 11/08/2005 8:35:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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This topic was posted 10/18/2005, thanks blam.
One of *those* topics.



110 posted on 06/28/2021 11:45:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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111 posted on 06/28/2021 11:45:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Bettany Hughes explores the history behind the famous Helen of Troy of Homer's Iliad. A great documentary presented with passion and infectious enthusiasm by the ever interesting Bettany Hughes.
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112 posted on 06/28/2021 12:01:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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This topic was posted 10/18/2005, thanks again blam.
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Helen of Troy | Aaron Rasmussen | February 4, 2013
Helen of Troy | Aaron Rasmussen | February 4, 2013

113 posted on 06/07/2022 10:40:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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