Horowitz Targeted by Communist Hit Squad

MoonbatCentral.com ^ | October 31, 2005 | Richard Poe

[sasportas]

By definition they are all political offshoots of 19th century materialism.

For those who are not as well read (such as myself)on the 19th century roots of communism and fascism, would you please explain "materialism."

[MonroeDNA]

Bump!

[Thumper1960]

They're dingbats, alright...and more blowhard than threats....at least, personally. Oh, sure, they'll rabblerouse and probably get a few of the weaker minded hangers-on to do the dirty work. But, the rank and file cadre'...all 2 dozen...are usually more yellow than Red.

[nopardons]

Are these people ( I use the term very loosely ) really Commies, as David Horowitz his parents REALLY were, or are they just using the term? That's what I'd really like to know.

Obviously, the thugs are exceptionally stupid. Calling David Horowitz a Nazi, is patently ridiculous.

[nopardons]

Okay, I take some of what I said back.

Read this thread.

[nothingnew]

Read it earlier.

You're beginning to see what I alluded to.

Thank you for your consideration for me, here and privately. FMCDH(BITS)

[nothingnew]

Happy FR anniversary.

FMCDH(BITS)

[nopardons]

Reread it. This is still the OLD brigade; no newbies in the SDSer's camp.

You're most welcome. :-)

[nopardons]

Many thanks! :-)

[Dead Dog]

http://www.csustan.edu/History/Faculty/Weikart/hitler-evil.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism#The_Hegelian_roots_of_Marxism (just to see what the commies say about themselves)

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6738

It's not so much being well read, but curiosity. Goldwater, peaked my curiosity, and probably said it best in The Conscience of the Conservative, in that Liberalism is the emphasis on providing the material needs of man (food water, clothing) where as Conservatism is the emphasis of the material needs of man (Freedom, opportunity, excellence ect). But the liberal association with materialism, and the unfortunate company they keep by that association runs much deeper.

Sorting out why materialism tends to end badly is an absolutely fascinating study, and is made difficult by the Marxist's talent for obfuscation (visually by creating straw men under the guise Dialectic Materialism, Capitalism IMO is one such straw men), and the fact that there is so little agreement between different branches of materialism..except for pointing fingers at each others mass murder.

Stranger yet, is how the occult and satanism tie in with Socialism and Nazism. Three groups we typically see as opposites or simply disassociated, but they all tend to end up falling into the trap of becoming their "own god". It's an inherent flaw, imo, of materialism.

The $1000 question is, how does liberalism stand for NOW while standing for Hugh Heffner, the party of Lewis Farakaun the party of a secular Jews, the domain of homosexual acceptance the domain of Margaret Sanger (who'd breed out ethinic minorities, Jews, homosexuals, and probably modern conservatives?

[RunningWolf]

Here it is in action - speak the truth, take risk from actual leftists, who actually exist, and actually believe in lies. Liberals/leftists are mentally ill.

Some might of them be on this forum jeremiah, dressed up in 7-11 halloween costumes as genetic scientists, and molecular biologists.

Wolf

[BigCinBigD]

That head shot of Charles Clark Kissinger is missing something. But what?.Oh I know contusions!

[little jeremiah]

There are many on this forum who are seriously mentally ill, no doubt about it. Who want to see destruction of what makes human civilization human.

[little jeremiah]

I'm wondering about this part of your comments, did you leave something out, or maybe you could clarify:

"...Liberalism is the emphasis on providing the material needs of man (food water, clothing) where as Conservatism is the emphasis of the material needs of man (Freedom, opportunity, excellence ect)."

[Dead Dog]

Yah, that was a typo:

Liberal: Materialist emphisis of Man
Conservative: Spiritual emphisis on Man.

[1L]

>>RCP thugs invaded Professor Yoo's classroom last week, on October 26, forcing him to flee. <<

I won't flee, so bring it on here.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks! I though that's what you meant; I figured the lurkers needed it spelled out for them!

[Lookin Forward]

The Commie-guy. . . shouldn't he be spending his energy on combating that case of goiter.

[sasportas]

Just now had time to respond. Wow, I appreciate your response VERY much. I went to your links. I have gotten my understanding of the origins of the leftist mindset sharpened considerably. I think you are right on in your analysis.

You mentioned the occult. I agree with you. Especially if we factor in - here's where I may lose you, so many discount what they label "tin hat" theories - the influence of the occult on "intellectual" Europe back then: such things as Grand Orient Masonry and Adam Wisehaupt's schemes.

I have read the historian Nesta Websters books. She wrote extensively along these lines. Her book "Secret Societies and Subversive Movements" is quite an eye opener.

Hegel's dialectic philosphy of the material vs the spiritual, I now see, also play a big role in this. Which in turn, provided the basis for Marx materialism. The "19th century materialism" you spoke of. Truth be known, Both Hegel and Marx were probably influenced by occultic thinking to some degree. According to Webster, it was the rage in Europe for "intellectuals" back then, apparently.

Frederick the Great, Adam Wisehaupt, Cabalists, Grand Orient Masonry, the Jacobites, Socialism, Hegel, Marx and Engel,the Bolsheviks and Communism, Nazism, "liberalism," and our present day Democrat party, in my opinion, are peas of the same pod. Materialists, yes, all of them. Pantheists or anti-Theists.

And though some of them, like the atheist Marxists, would discount the spiritual, in my view, they are also spiritualists. Of the evil side, the occultic side, of the "spiritual," however.

[attiladhun2]

Not leftists? Fascists and Nazis bilieve in what?--big government, high taxation, government control of industry, government indoctrination of citizenry, subservience to the collective--sounds pretty left-wing to me. Read von Rathke's book on the economics of a free society. He observed that in the 1930s Moscow and Berlin were charting the same course.