Posted on 11/20/2005 2:10:53 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
My prayers are with the Borden children this evening, and with all who mourn for this couple that was so brutally slain, that the Lord will bring them comfort and strength.
Sometimes parents can be wrong...which seems to be the case with you and your husband...and then sometimes the parents were right, which in my case, was true...I was trying to date really 'bad boys'...they just attacted me for some reason...the sweet, good boys just did nothing for me...all I know is, ,my parents had their hands full with me...I was a real stinker and a real worry to them for a few years...but as I aged, even just a few years, I realized that they were right and I was wrong, and thank goodness, they did not let me have my way, when they thought it was not in my best interest...
I am glad tho, ,that your mom got to see you and your husband before you married, and I am sure it relieved her mind, to see you both so happy...
You would have expected some crying from those kids. One thing for sure, their lives will change. They had a nice house, but that will get sold.
I'm not buying this for a minute.
From past stories like this, an 18 yr old boy would have likely just wanted to run off with her.
When it gets this nuts, the girl instigates it.
That's how I'd bet. I think the evidence will confirm it.
The boy is going to do 25-Life, and the girl gets a pass.
--Travis--
My dad also, has gone on to be with the Lord, and I sure do miss him...he was a fine man, who adored his children, and tried to make sure that we grew up well taken care of and well protected...and dad made sure that protecting me, meant carefully screening any date or boyfriend I had...
I remember one time, when one of my current boyfriends came to the house, rang the bell, and I scurried to run down the stairs and answer the door...dad stopped me dead in my tracks, and said he would handle things...he went down the stairs, had a few words with my boyfriend, and that was the last time I ever did see that boyfriend...to this day, I do not know what my dad said to him, but it was enough to keep this boy away from me...
Thanks goodness for the protection of loving dads...
Thanks for the ping. I was glad to read the account of their memorial service.
I wonder if they were freepers. Has anyone noticed someone missing?
hmmmmm good question!
I remember those days well. Studies have shown that we live longer if we try to "chill."
Except that David Ludwig had made a video planning to murder people with his friend.
I'm guessing, but I think he means she was drawn to problem people. 2 of my sons are like that. The more troubled someone is the better:') Kids like this can reach and evangelize where others can't. Sounds wonderful huh? When the hormones kicked in, though.... I suspect this girl saw a troubled young man and reached out to him and the rest is history. These "special" kids , have to be watched really closely. They have no fear and are extremely accepting.
I can only speak about how my younger children reacted when their oldest sister died. They were very composed. They were in total numbed shock.
The grief and pain was overridden by the unbelievability of it all. It just seemed like a dream to them, that they were moving through, that wasn't real.
After a few weeks has passed, the symptoms started showing. One son couldn't get through the usual track team workout without vomting uncontrollably, and wanted to quit the team, and hole up in his bedroom. His coach, who knew him well, as he was his history teacher as well, (very small school), told him to keep running and keep throwing up, that this was a natural reaction to a horrible loss, and that it would get better.
My youngest didn't cry for years. She was the closest to her oldest sister, who sympathized so with her for having two older brothers always teasing her. But, when she did, again, it was something at school that triggered it, and her teachers were there to hold her, and tell her it was ok, that it was time to stop trying to be so brave.
Children do not always grieve in "sociably acceptable ways". My son, who was closest in age to my daughter, never cried. He just went on an eight year drinking binge, having 3 serious auto accidents, until he got some counseling, and joined AA.
Let's cut these poor kids some slack. They have a hard and lonely road ahead, all uphill and rocky. They are going to walk "through the slough of despond", and need our prayers.
Oh yeah. that little thing.
No tears? Look at the pics. You can see other emotions too.. The sister seems angry and fighting tears. The 14 y/o had her eyes closed and looked extremely pale.
My sincere condolences.
He did? Do you have a link?
The parents did seem the type that would be interested in this site.
http://local.lancasteronline.com/4/18714
Film reveals Ludwig 'night patrols'
Court documents disclose plots to break into homes, kill family.
By Janet Kelley And Cindy Stauffer
Lancaster New Era
Published: Nov 18, 2005 2:16 PM EST
Dressed in dark clothing, the two filmed themselves as they readied to break into a local home with assault rifles and other guns, according to a new court document.
In low voices, the two discussed shooting and killing a family inside the home during the chilling 18-minute film. But passing traffic foiled their plan, the court document said.
Ludwig, who allegedly shot and killed his girlfriend Kara Bordens parents in their Lititz home Sunday morning, and the friend then decided to continue their night patrol by going to the Borden home, according to the court document.
During the film, they discussed having sex with Kara and Katelyn Borden, that the sex would constitute statutory rape and the potential to have to shoot a guy named Jonathan if he found out about it.
(Follow the link to read entire article.)
I hope they have picked up the "friend" and he's not running loose .
FOX: coming up...not the first time suspect abducted young girl.
Guess the rumor is true. Stay tuned.
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