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Osteen family leaves plane after dispute (pastor's wife didn't follow a fa's instructions)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-21-05 | ARMANDO VILLAFRANCA and HARVEY RICE

Posted on 12/21/2005 6:53:14 AM PST by truthandlife

A dispute involving the wife of Lakewood Church pastor Joel Osteen delayed holiday travel plans for a planeload of passengers, but few details were released Tuesday.

At least some people aboard the Continental Airlines flight were less than pleased after waiting about two hours at Bush Intercontinental Airport while the Osteens left the plane and their luggage was removed, said a woman who witnessed the incident.

"She was just abusive," said Sheila Steele, who said she was sitting behind Victoria Osteen. "She was just like one of those divas."

A church spokesman said the couple and their children left the plane voluntarily after the incident Monday and took another flight to Vail, Colo.

However, FBI Special Agent Luz Garcia said the Osteens were asked to leave the jetliner after an "altercation." She said Victoria Osteen "failed to comply" with instructions from the flight attendant. She added that no one was detained.

The incident occurred in the first class section on Flight 1602. Continental spokeswoman Julie King declined to give details.

The Osteens could not be reached for comment, and the Chronicle was unable to contact other passengers to corroborate Steele's version of events. However, the Vail Daily newspaper reported similar accounts of the incident from other first-class passengers.

Passenger Barbara Griffith told the Colorado paper that Joel Osteen was "very calm, very professional."

Lakewood Church spokesman Donald Iloff said Victoria Osteen contacted a flight attendant after noticing that a liquid had been spilled on her seat. The spill apparently was not cleaned up to her satisfaction, Iloff said. The family left the plane voluntarily and took another flight, Iloff said.

The airline issued a statement saying corporate policy forbids identifying passengers.

"There have been various accounts regarding events that occurred on one of our flights," the statement added. "We can confirm that there are no remaining issues between (Continental Airlines) and those passengers, and therefore, both parties feel no further comment is necessary."

Steele said Victoria Osteen was upset about liquid on her pull-down tray and asked a flight attendant to have it cleaned. When the attendant, who was carrying paperwork to the cockpit, told her she couldn't do it immediately, Osteen replied, "Fine, get me a stewardess who can," Steele said.

She said Victoria Osteen pushed a flight attendant and tried to get into the cockpit. Passengers quoted in the Colorado paper did not address those details.

Soon after, authorities were called to the plane, she said, although it was not clear Tuesday whether they were airline officials.

Garcia said Continental officials contacted the FBI about the incident. The agency decided not to investigate.

"It was quickly resolved between the airline and the Osteens," Garcia said.

Steele said she and other passengers were upset that they had to wait about two hours while the Osteens' baggage was removed from the plane.

Joel Osteen is a nationally known author of self-help books.

He became pastor of Lakewood Church in October 1999, building it into what some observers say is the largest church in the U.S.

Victoria Osteen also preaches and plays a significant role at the church.

The congregation in July moved into the 16,000-seat Compaq Center.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: apostasy; hitpiece; lakewoodchurch; osteen; primadona
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To: ichabod1
Got to admit, Joel has been drawing the people to Christ. The church has like quadrupled membership since his daddy died,

You mean he has been drawing people to his CHURCH. Not necessarily to Christ. If people find Christ, it's not because it's in his preaching. I listen to him when I'm in the mood to be irritated at the growing apostasy and lukewarmness of what purports to be 'the body of Christ.'

141 posted on 12/28/2005 4:16:25 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: AppyPappy

I loved that post. I'm glad to hear you see the falseness of the seeker-sensitive thing!


142 posted on 12/28/2005 4:18:10 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: ichabod1
I do get a chuckle out of the little confession they say every service:

I don't. It's not funny. It's tragic.

143 posted on 12/28/2005 4:19:06 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: truthandlife

That prosperity cookie is beginning to crumble! Lakewood grew large at the expense of other charismatic churches in the area.


144 posted on 12/28/2005 4:32:33 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Terriergal

You're right of course.


145 posted on 12/28/2005 5:58:58 PM PST by ichabod1 (Sic Omnia Gloria Fugit)
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To: ichabod1

Thanks. :-)


146 posted on 12/28/2005 6:40:23 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: dinoparty
Just as an aside, I am an evangelical Christian but Joel Osteen tends to turn my stomach. The Bible is the ultimate "self help"; why do we need corny lectures and books on self help topics from Mr. Osteen?

Right about that. The mission of all Christians is to spread the Gospel of Christ and nothing more. I am sick of these "prosperity Gospel" types who spent most of their TV time talking about and preaching about raising money.

147 posted on 09/12/2006 5:25:44 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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