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Osteen family leaves plane after dispute (pastor's wife didn't follow a fa's instructions)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-21-05 | ARMANDO VILLAFRANCA and HARVEY RICE

Posted on 12/21/2005 6:53:14 AM PST by truthandlife

A dispute involving the wife of Lakewood Church pastor Joel Osteen delayed holiday travel plans for a planeload of passengers, but few details were released Tuesday.

At least some people aboard the Continental Airlines flight were less than pleased after waiting about two hours at Bush Intercontinental Airport while the Osteens left the plane and their luggage was removed, said a woman who witnessed the incident.

"She was just abusive," said Sheila Steele, who said she was sitting behind Victoria Osteen. "She was just like one of those divas."

A church spokesman said the couple and their children left the plane voluntarily after the incident Monday and took another flight to Vail, Colo.

However, FBI Special Agent Luz Garcia said the Osteens were asked to leave the jetliner after an "altercation." She said Victoria Osteen "failed to comply" with instructions from the flight attendant. She added that no one was detained.

The incident occurred in the first class section on Flight 1602. Continental spokeswoman Julie King declined to give details.

The Osteens could not be reached for comment, and the Chronicle was unable to contact other passengers to corroborate Steele's version of events. However, the Vail Daily newspaper reported similar accounts of the incident from other first-class passengers.

Passenger Barbara Griffith told the Colorado paper that Joel Osteen was "very calm, very professional."

Lakewood Church spokesman Donald Iloff said Victoria Osteen contacted a flight attendant after noticing that a liquid had been spilled on her seat. The spill apparently was not cleaned up to her satisfaction, Iloff said. The family left the plane voluntarily and took another flight, Iloff said.

The airline issued a statement saying corporate policy forbids identifying passengers.

"There have been various accounts regarding events that occurred on one of our flights," the statement added. "We can confirm that there are no remaining issues between (Continental Airlines) and those passengers, and therefore, both parties feel no further comment is necessary."

Steele said Victoria Osteen was upset about liquid on her pull-down tray and asked a flight attendant to have it cleaned. When the attendant, who was carrying paperwork to the cockpit, told her she couldn't do it immediately, Osteen replied, "Fine, get me a stewardess who can," Steele said.

She said Victoria Osteen pushed a flight attendant and tried to get into the cockpit. Passengers quoted in the Colorado paper did not address those details.

Soon after, authorities were called to the plane, she said, although it was not clear Tuesday whether they were airline officials.

Garcia said Continental officials contacted the FBI about the incident. The agency decided not to investigate.

"It was quickly resolved between the airline and the Osteens," Garcia said.

Steele said she and other passengers were upset that they had to wait about two hours while the Osteens' baggage was removed from the plane.

Joel Osteen is a nationally known author of self-help books.

He became pastor of Lakewood Church in October 1999, building it into what some observers say is the largest church in the U.S.

Victoria Osteen also preaches and plays a significant role at the church.

The congregation in July moved into the 16,000-seat Compaq Center.


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: apostasy; hitpiece; lakewoodchurch; osteen; primadona
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1 posted on 12/21/2005 6:53:15 AM PST by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife
Victoria Osteen pushed a flight attendant and tried to get into the cockpit

She's very lucky a federal marshall wasn't on board.

2 posted on 12/21/2005 6:54:45 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: truthandlife
Other articles from yesterday:

Wife of Joel Osteen Asked to Leave Plane

Pastor's (Joel Osteen's)wife involved in flight disturbance

3 posted on 12/21/2005 6:55:56 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: truthandlife

"The congregation in July moved into the 16,000-seat Compaq Center."


'This Sunday's service sponsored by our good friends at Compaq!'?


4 posted on 12/21/2005 6:56:51 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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To: truthandlife

Shades of Tammy Faye?


5 posted on 12/21/2005 6:57:09 AM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: truthandlife
Steele said Victoria Osteen was upset about liquid on her pull-down tray and asked a flight attendant to have it cleaned. When the attendant, who was carrying paperwork to the cockpit, told her she couldn't do it immediately, Osteen replied, "Fine, get me a stewardess who can," Steele said.

As a devout believer, I would have to say that the number one problem in Christianity today is Christians.....

6 posted on 12/21/2005 6:59:01 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Onelifetogive

I agree.


7 posted on 12/21/2005 6:59:54 AM PST by conservatrice
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To: Onelifetogive

Everyone has bad days don't you think?


8 posted on 12/21/2005 7:00:23 AM PST by maxter
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To: Onelifetogive

True :(


9 posted on 12/21/2005 7:01:20 AM PST by ElisabethInCincy
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To: truthandlife

When you are in the spotlight like the Osteen's you have to work twice as hard to avoid crap like this.


10 posted on 12/21/2005 7:02:30 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: truthandlife

Just as an aside, I am an evangelical Christian but Joel Osteen tends to turn my stomach. The Bible is the ultimate "self help"; why do we need corny lectures and books on self help topics from Mr. Osteen?


11 posted on 12/21/2005 7:02:52 AM PST by dinoparty (In the beginning was the Word)
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To: Blzbba
no--Lakewood bought the Compaq Center. it was an auditorium.

I'm just glad that we don't have to deal with the Lakewood congregation when they use Minute Maid baseball park (which is next to our Church in downtown Houston) for their bigger services. We've been late to Mass because of traffic jams getting off the freeway!

12 posted on 12/21/2005 7:03:27 AM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: truthandlife
Joel Osteen is a nationally known author of self-help books.

Hmmm....Sounds like Victoria should get one for Christmas.
Pride goeth before a fall.

13 posted on 12/21/2005 7:03:55 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Jesus is THE Reason for the Season.)
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To: Semper Paratus

Flying 1st class to Vail!

What ever happened to humble preachers?

One of his suits costs more than my entire wardrobe!


14 posted on 12/21/2005 7:04:42 AM PST by CWW (He)
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To: manic4organic
dont you mean,

the MANY shades...

15 posted on 12/21/2005 7:07:03 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: maxter; Onelifetogive

Yep, we all have bad days, but our detractors don't allow us to react to them - to someone looking for faults, we arent' allowed anything less than perfection.

That won't "ultimately" work as an excuse for their decision about eternity, but they will try to use it right now, and talk about how they are no worse than, or ever better than Christians...

I just pray I don't lose it on a bad day when someone like that is watching. Not because of my embarrassment, but because I don't want to be their excuse for not coming to Christ.


16 posted on 12/21/2005 7:13:56 AM PST by HeadOn (Merry Christmas!)
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To: dinoparty

He does tend to water things down, doesn't he?


17 posted on 12/21/2005 7:16:09 AM PST by HeadOn (Merry Christmas!)
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To: truthandlife

Pastors of big churches sometimes have wives that are less than ladies and more like b-------. Of course that applies to men of other professions wives, too.


18 posted on 12/21/2005 7:17:06 AM PST by Nextrush (We are all sinners, sorry to say)
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To: truthandlife

Pastors of big churches sometimes have wives that are less than ladies and more like b-------. Of course that applies to men of other professions wives, too.


19 posted on 12/21/2005 7:17:51 AM PST by Nextrush (We are all sinners, sometimes we fail to do the right thing)
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To: truthandlife

Hmmm.... Flying first class to Colorado and upset her tray table is not to her liking which I can only imagine is because she didn't want to stain her bible whilst preparing for the family missionary work to the poor and destitute of Vail. Yep, seems logical to me...


20 posted on 12/21/2005 7:19:57 AM PST by dustedvinyl
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