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Osteen family leaves plane after dispute (pastor's wife didn't follow a fa's instructions)
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12-21-05 | ARMANDO VILLAFRANCA and HARVEY RICE

Posted on 12/21/2005 6:53:14 AM PST by truthandlife

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To: CWW

The Osteen family is not of the "humble preacher" variety.


41 posted on 12/21/2005 7:58:16 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ichabod1

It sounds like he has been drawing people to Joel. It's a seeker-sensitive church. IOW you don't have to be a Christian to attend the church. What little I have heard of him (on BET), he doesn't preach a really meaty message. It's not horrible but it's more of a performance than true worship. If it gets people interested in Christianity, more power to it. But I imagine a lot of people are showing up just because of Joel and the Lakewood experience.


42 posted on 12/21/2005 7:58:31 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Nextrush

She is very involved in the church leadership, she isn't just his wife.


43 posted on 12/21/2005 7:58:51 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: truthandlife

Some flight attendents can be b*tches or in the case of male attendents, b*tchy. When a customer complains about something, they should be accomodated immediately.

Anyone that uses commercial airlines can be sympathetic to the frustraton of the lady that was ejected from the plane.


44 posted on 12/21/2005 7:58:59 AM PST by hgro (A)
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To: ichabod1

That's an interesting confession! Now what are they actually confessing, other than their "potential"?

There's a hint of "prosperity gospel" in Osteen, which I loathe. Material success is just as often a curse as it is a blessing. Last I checked, the gospels do not portray Jesus as extolling material wealth as a reward for faith.


45 posted on 12/21/2005 7:59:49 AM PST by dinoparty (In the beginning was the Word)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The other passengers didn't really address Victoria. They kinda skirted around that to talk about Joel. FA's rarely stop a plane for no reason. It had to be something bad to cost that company that much money.


46 posted on 12/21/2005 8:00:12 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Onelifetogive

AMEN


47 posted on 12/21/2005 8:00:44 AM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Onelifetogive

Agreed.


48 posted on 12/21/2005 8:01:12 AM PST by LS
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To: maxter
>The incident occurred in the first class section on Flight 1602
>>Everyone has bad days don't you think?

Do you know how much
first class tickets cost? Airlines
get so much income

from first class tickets,
they sure as heck should clean trays!
I'd have made a scene,

but not big enough
to get kicked off the airplane.
First class should be clean.

49 posted on 12/21/2005 8:01:12 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: truthandlife

The princess and the pea comes to mind.


50 posted on 12/21/2005 8:01:20 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: hgro
When a customer complains about something, they should be accomodated immediately.

Not during takeoff procedures. Safety overrules everything at that point. Anyway, one of the customers on 9/11 cut an FA's throat.

51 posted on 12/21/2005 8:01:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: truthandlife
I Guess she is mad at her reverend hubby for not buying a corporate jet. For all their extravagance, Renaissance popes did not add to their expenses by keeping a separate court for their wives. Mistresses are bad enough.
52 posted on 12/21/2005 8:01:45 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: HeadOn

Perhaps not her pre-flight martinis though? Maybe one too many is the secret to this tale.


53 posted on 12/21/2005 8:02:24 AM PST by The Westerner
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To: Nextrush

Why priests don't get married.


54 posted on 12/21/2005 8:02:27 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: dustedvinyl

Other parts of the story say she was upset at liquid spilled on her SEAT. It was Steele who said it was liquid on the tray.

How could there be liquid on the tray? The tray would have been folded up into the seat in front, and the liquid would have run off.

If it was in her seat, She would have had to have STOOD in the aisle, while other passengers were pushing past, until someone came and cleaned up the seat so she could sit without getting her clothes messy. She may not have known the attendent had important things to do, and her request for another attendent to take care of it is not unreasonable.

1st class passengers pay a lot extra for their flights, and all they get for it is better service and bigger seats. They expect that for their extra HUNDREDS of dollars, they should get pretty good service. If I paid $500 extra just so I could be waited on for 3 hours, I wouldn't expect to be blown off, or expect to have to sit in a wet seat.


55 posted on 12/21/2005 8:02:30 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: truthandlife

JMO, Mrs. Osteen thinks she is the new "Queen" Victoria.


56 posted on 12/21/2005 8:03:02 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: manic4organic
No, I don't believe Tammy Faye was a drinker, however, she did wear clown makeup.
57 posted on 12/21/2005 8:03:14 AM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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To: ichabod1
Absolutely. Of course, as soon as you say that---that pastor pr preacher "x" is popular or leading people to Christ, then you get all the people who scream "false prophet" and "Jim Jones."

Jesus had no problem with variety as long as they were teaching ultimately about Him. He said "He who is not against us is with us."

58 posted on 12/21/2005 8:03:21 AM PST by LS
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To: theFIRMbss

There seems to be some evidence that Victoria or her kids spilled a drink. That's what started the whole thing. The plane was moving from what I heard.

There's no way that any substantial amount of liquid was on the tray when it was deployed. It would have dripped out when it was put away.


59 posted on 12/21/2005 8:03:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

She forgot she was a preacher's wife. As such she has a special obligation,


60 posted on 12/21/2005 8:03:52 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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