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1 posted on 12/21/2005 6:53:15 AM PST by truthandlife
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Victoria Osteen pushed a flight attendant and tried to get into the cockpit

She's very lucky a federal marshall wasn't on board.

2 posted on 12/21/2005 6:54:45 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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Other articles from yesterday:

Wife of Joel Osteen Asked to Leave Plane

Pastor's (Joel Osteen's)wife involved in flight disturbance

3 posted on 12/21/2005 6:55:56 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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"The congregation in July moved into the 16,000-seat Compaq Center."


'This Sunday's service sponsored by our good friends at Compaq!'?


4 posted on 12/21/2005 6:56:51 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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Shades of Tammy Faye?


5 posted on 12/21/2005 6:57:09 AM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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Steele said Victoria Osteen was upset about liquid on her pull-down tray and asked a flight attendant to have it cleaned. When the attendant, who was carrying paperwork to the cockpit, told her she couldn't do it immediately, Osteen replied, "Fine, get me a stewardess who can," Steele said.

As a devout believer, I would have to say that the number one problem in Christianity today is Christians.....

6 posted on 12/21/2005 6:59:01 AM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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When you are in the spotlight like the Osteen's you have to work twice as hard to avoid crap like this.


10 posted on 12/21/2005 7:02:30 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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Just as an aside, I am an evangelical Christian but Joel Osteen tends to turn my stomach. The Bible is the ultimate "self help"; why do we need corny lectures and books on self help topics from Mr. Osteen?


11 posted on 12/21/2005 7:02:52 AM PST by dinoparty (In the beginning was the Word)
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Joel Osteen is a nationally known author of self-help books.

Hmmm....Sounds like Victoria should get one for Christmas.
Pride goeth before a fall.

13 posted on 12/21/2005 7:03:55 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Jesus is THE Reason for the Season.)
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Pastors of big churches sometimes have wives that are less than ladies and more like b-------. Of course that applies to men of other professions wives, too.


18 posted on 12/21/2005 7:17:06 AM PST by Nextrush (We are all sinners, sorry to say)
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Pastors of big churches sometimes have wives that are less than ladies and more like b-------. Of course that applies to men of other professions wives, too.


19 posted on 12/21/2005 7:17:51 AM PST by Nextrush (We are all sinners, sometimes we fail to do the right thing)
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Hmmm.... Flying first class to Colorado and upset her tray table is not to her liking which I can only imagine is because she didn't want to stain her bible whilst preparing for the family missionary work to the poor and destitute of Vail. Yep, seems logical to me...


20 posted on 12/21/2005 7:19:57 AM PST by dustedvinyl
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What Have We Become?
Album: Jesus Freak, by DC Talk

A preacher shuns his brother
Cause his bride’s a different color
And this is not acceptable
His papa taught him so
It was love that he’d been preaching
But this was overreaching
The boundaries stretchin’ further
Than his heart would choose to go

Like an angel with no wings
Like a kingdom with no king

What have we become?
A self indulgent people
What have we become?
Tell me where are the righteous ones?
What have we become?
In a world degenerating
What have we become?

(wispered in the background...)
Speak your mind, look out for yourself
The answer to it all is a life of wealth
Grab all you can cause you live just once
You got the right to do whatever you want
Don’t worry about others or where you came from
It ain’t what you were, it’s what you have become

Mom and dad are fightin’
As rosie lies there crying
For once again she’s overheard
Regrets of their mistake
With christmas bells a-ringing
Little rosie’d leave them grieving
the gift she’d give her family
Would be the pills she’d take

An inconvenient child
She wasn’t worth their while

What have we become?
A self indulgent people
What have we become?
Tell me where are the righteous ones?
What have we become?
In a world degenerating
What have we become?

(wispered in the background...)
Speak your mind, look out for yourself
The answer to it all is a life of wealth
Grab all you can cause you live just once
You got the right to do whatever you want
Don’t worry about others or where you came from
It ain’t what you were, it’s what you have become

What about love?
What about god?
What about holiness?
What about mercy, compassion and selflessness?

You know it’s true
He is there for me and you
Doesn’t matter what you do

What have we become?
A self indulgent people
What have we become?
Tell me where are the righteous ones?
What have we become?
In a world degenerating
What have we become?

What have we become?
Have we come undone?

(louder - wispered in the background...)
Speak your mind, look out for yourself
The answer to it all is a life of wealth
Grab all you can cause you live just once
You got the right to do whatever you want
Don’t worry about others or where you came from
It ain’t what you were, it’s what you have become

Selfish... ? ? ?
With selfish... ? ? ?
Selfish people
When you gonna learn?
Everyone of us
Gathered ’round in trust
What have we become?

21 posted on 12/21/2005 7:24:20 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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Great- another hypocrite for the nonbelieving world to point to as an example of how all of us christians are poseurs. *sigh*


32 posted on 12/21/2005 7:48:06 AM PST by lawgirl (..a long December and there's reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last.....)
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Some flight attendents can be b*tches or in the case of male attendents, b*tchy. When a customer complains about something, they should be accomodated immediately.

Anyone that uses commercial airlines can be sympathetic to the frustraton of the lady that was ejected from the plane.


44 posted on 12/21/2005 7:58:59 AM PST by hgro (A)
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The princess and the pea comes to mind.


50 posted on 12/21/2005 8:01:20 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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I Guess she is mad at her reverend hubby for not buying a corporate jet. For all their extravagance, Renaissance popes did not add to their expenses by keeping a separate court for their wives. Mistresses are bad enough.
52 posted on 12/21/2005 8:01:45 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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JMO, Mrs. Osteen thinks she is the new "Queen" Victoria.


56 posted on 12/21/2005 8:03:02 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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No one commenting on these posts seem to know what really happened on this flight with this woman.

I think they want to insert their biased opinions of Osteen, church people, etc. rather than wait for the facts.

Having said that, I'm not familiar with Osteen other than seeing his picture on books....and reading he preaches a 'prosperity type gospel'...

...that is not my cup of tea.

But some folks here are really quick to judge this woman as a witch on wheels just because she's involved in this type of ministry.

Whether I, or anyone else, agrees with their large church, their message or their lifestyle....

..we simply don't know the facts to make such comments here.

63 posted on 12/21/2005 8:11:10 AM PST by Guenevere
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HWJF = How Would Jesus Fly? (First Class, of course!)

WWJS = Where Would Jesus Ski? (Vail, apparently!)

74 posted on 12/21/2005 8:26:39 AM PST by TankerKC (Who will hold the NYT accountable for knowingly releasing classified info?)
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Rule #1: Never take 'self-help' advice from anyone that sounds like, and has the mannerisms of, Tom Daschle.

Osteen gives me the creeps.


John Hagy on the other hand...the preacher tells it like it is brother!


83 posted on 12/21/2005 8:41:28 AM PST by Hammerhead
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