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Kilts not allowed?

Posted on 12/22/2005 12:01:01 PM PST by bobd400

Anyone else have issue with this? Banning a kilt? http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/12/22/student.kilt.ap/index.html

A petition in support of the student.. http://www.petitiononline.com/kilt05/


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: dresscode; highschool; jackson; kilt; kiltkibash; kilts; missouri; nathanwarmack; scots; scottish
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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: jalisco555

Jalisco,
Don't make the mistake in thinking that the kilt is reserved for Scots. There is even an American tartan. Look into it, even if it's just to wear to Highland Gatherings or Celtic festivals.


42 posted on 12/22/2005 4:47:13 PM PST by bobd400
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To: creedence

Creedence,
If you were so "old fashion" you'd probably support the wearing of the kilt. If you think it's stupid, fine, but I hope then you hold the same standard for ALL cultural dress.
And all I can say is I'm glad it's not up to you, Emperor.


43 posted on 12/22/2005 4:51:16 PM PST by bobd400
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To: creedence

Creedence, I get the feeling you're very narrow minded, and somewhat uniformed. The kilt is NOT a skirt.


44 posted on 12/22/2005 4:52:59 PM PST by bobd400
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
What type of panties do you wear under your skirt?

It doesn't matter. No one peeks.
45 posted on 12/22/2005 4:55:38 PM PST by redheadtoo
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To: ReignOfError
... the air conditioning was feeble on its best day. It was 90+ in the classrooms many days.

... don't think any of the protesters had enough wit to wear a kilt instead of a skirt,


Kilts are made of wool and are designed to be worn in the highlands of Scotland. They are not comfortable clothing for hot climates.
46 posted on 12/22/2005 5:04:24 PM PST by redheadtoo
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To: creedence

I agree with part of what you say but anyone who thinks kilts look stupid, well there is something missing there somewhere.


47 posted on 12/22/2005 5:05:06 PM PST by yarddog
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To: bobd400

I wear a Welsh kilt. I don't wear anything under it. I'm of Welsh heritage. We're archers and infantry. Too short for the cavalry.

But we'll kick a$$ anyway. Remember Agincourt and Rourke's Drift.


48 posted on 12/22/2005 5:14:05 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Tinkerlbell doesn't wear underwear. She moved wrong once and I saw. She's not a real blond.)
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To: sionnsar

"Johnny, where's yer trousers?" ping ;)


49 posted on 12/22/2005 5:15:46 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: creedence

Modern guys have lost the art of the crossed-leg thing.

Until that skill is mastered there should be rules.

We need a test or somrthing.

;)


50 posted on 12/22/2005 5:18:03 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: freedumb2003
"Johnny, where's yer trousers?" ping ;)

This guy has to learn how to dress. (There was a thread days ago with another photo.) He's got what looks more or less like a kilt (Wallace tartan, apparently), except it's way too long, more like a kilted skirt. No belt, no sporran.

I'll assume it's properly pleated...

51 posted on 12/22/2005 5:23:04 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: Celebrate MY diversity, eh! || Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: sionnsar

I knew you would know!


52 posted on 12/22/2005 5:32:19 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: bobd400
Anyone else have issue with this?

Is Sean Connery a-wearing it?
54 posted on 12/22/2005 5:46:41 PM PST by hummingbird (Festivus, a Holiday for the Rest of Us.)
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To: redheadtoo
Kilts are made of wool and are designed to be worn in the highlands of Scotland. They are not comfortable clothing for hot climates.

Yeah, that occurred to me. But if any students were wearing kilts that were too thin, or not of the right material, or not of the appropriate clan tartan, I doubt my school administrators would have known the difference (even if the principal's name was Wallace).

55 posted on 12/22/2005 6:34:20 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Nathan in his (Clan McRae) kilt at said event.



I support his right to wear it, but I am not impressed with how he looks. But maybe I'm just prefential to the Murray tartan.
56 posted on 12/23/2005 5:27:06 AM PST by elc
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To: elc

> I support his right to wear it, but I am not impressed with how he looks. But maybe I'm just prefential to the Murray tartan

Yeah, I guess me too. It just looks wrong, that's all. And I'm not convinced of his right to wear it. The kilt is a privilege that has been bought with blood.

(used to be a hanging offense...)

His surname may/may not be Scottish. His affiliation with his selected tartan (bought off he Internet) is unclear.

No sporrin, no sgein dubh, no kilt-pin, no Prince Charlie jacket. No Brogues. A fairly poor turn-out, all told: I understand some clans offered to help him dress up. He ought to have taken 'em up on their kind offer.

OK, I'm willing to concede that every kid is entitled to one mistake, and if this is the only mistake this kid makes, well and good. I wish him every success in his future endeavors.


57 posted on 12/23/2005 5:38:43 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Folks, let's not lose track of the issue here.
Does he look as "sharp" as he's supposed too? Definately not. But what teenager does these day? Did the principal oversee the attire of all students to ensure they were sharp? Nope. The principal, for whatever reason, doesn't think the kilt is acceptable cultural attire, and THAT is not for him to decide.


58 posted on 12/23/2005 8:00:10 AM PST by bobd400
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Aye, a kilt can go from casual to full military dress very easily. The kilt is one of the greatest symbols of national pride around, seeing a Scot wearing one needs nothing else said. I am Clan Donald, and we just do not invite certain other Clans for sleep overs anymore.

Slainte'


59 posted on 12/23/2005 8:11:38 AM PST by weps4ret (Things the make you go; Hmmmmmmm?)
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To: eaglesiniowa

The rest of the story:

High School Student Receives Apology Over Kilt
By BETSY TAYLOR, AP

JACKSON, Mo. (Jan. 10) -- It appears a great kilt debate in southeast Missouri has come to a close. After being told to change out of a kilt at a school dance this fall, Jackson High School senior Nathan Warmack received an apology during a school board meeting Monday night. It came with a promise from the district's superintendent to train staff in properly interpreting the school's dress code.
Warmack, 18, wore a kilt to a dance in November with a dress shirt and tie as a way to recognize his Scottish heritage. Principal Rick McClard told Warmack to change into pants, sparking an Internet petition that drew comment from around the world and angered Scottish heritage organizations who felt the student's outfit was appropriate.

"Everything turned out exactly the way we were hoping," the student's father, Terry Warmack, said Tuesday. "It ended up going further than we anticipated, but we're thankful to the school board for how things went."

Calls to school officials and the Warmacks' lawyer were not immediately returned.

Nathan wore his kilt to the school board meeting. The student plans to wear it again to his school prom, and Scottish groups are working to provide him with an entire outfit of formal Scottish dress. Several of the donated pieces are being handmade by Scots around the U.S.

Terry Warmack said he came away from the meeting convinced that school officials will now protect against discrimination based on national origin. He also said he didn't think too much had been made of the incident.

"I don't believe it's blowing something out of proportion if you're fighting for something you believe is a right," he said.


60 posted on 01/11/2006 6:53:57 AM PST by eaglesiniowa
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