Skip to comments.Indonesian Muslims Furious Over Playboy (islamic sexual repression alert)
Posted on 01/22/2006 8:54:21 AM PST by Dark Skies
JAKARTA Indonesian Muslims have reacted in fury over the planned debut of a local edition of raunchy magazine Playboy, fueling growing debate on pornography in the world's most populous Muslim nation.
"Playboy simply has no place in our social norms and culture," Hasyim Muzadi, the chairman of Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), Indonesia's largest Muslim organization, told Agence France Presse (AFP) on Sunday, January 22.
"Indonesia is not Europe or America, whose culture and reaction towards nudity are totally different than ours," he maintained.
Ponti Carrolus, director of PT Velvet Silver Media which holds the Indonesian license from the US-based magazine, vowed on Friday to go ahead with the launch of the local version of Playboy despite growing protests.
He argued that the magazine will dramatically tone down the Playboy's erotic photographs.
"Pornography, regardless of how it is being disguised, will only corrupt youth morals and bring catastrophes such as a rise in rape and sexual harassment," Muzadi warned.
Indonesia is the most populous Muslim state with a population of 220 million, 80% of them are Muslims.
Founded in 1953, Playboy has about 20 local editions around the world that cater to local taste rather than simply exporting and translating its US content.
Irfan Awwas, the chairman of the Indonesian Mujahedin Council, echoed a similar warning.
"It will be disastrous for Indonesia," he told AFP.
"The publication of Playboy as we know it will further destroy the nation's morality."
Muzadi, whose organization claims more than 40 million members, urged the Indonesian authorities to revoke the license for Playboy and other raunchy magazines in the country.
"Legalizing Playboy to circulate in Indonesia is tantamount to legalizing pornography, which is already pretty much uncontrollable due to the circulation of pirated DVDs and VCDs and the Internet," he said.
Porn discs are readily, if discreetly, available across the capital Jakarta for as little as 6,000 rupiah ($60 cents).
In recent years, lifestyle magazines have flooded Indonesia's markets, including those targeting a male audience.
Many are franchises of foreign publications in the United States, Europe, Australia and more liberal Asian nations.
FHM Indonesia, Sexy, Marta and Popular are but some of the more daring men's magazines on sale along Jakarta's busy streets.
Many of these titles hit the streets after the wave of liberalization that swept through Indonesia in 1999 after the fall of Suharto.
Leo Batubara, a senior member of the Indonesian Press Council, said critics should reserve judgment until they see how Playboy fits into "Indonesia's modern and acceptable social norms."
His fellow council member R.H. Siregar was also in favor of the magazine's publication, saying it would be unfair to ban it.
He urged the publisher to "consult religious groups and explain their format and intention."
The ongoing debate on Playboy comes as Indonesian lawmakers prepare to pass a wide-ranging law on pornography.
One of article in the bill stipulates jail terms of up to seven years for "acts and publication of acts deemed indecent or sexually arousing."
Another legislates a similar jail term for people caught kissing in public or dancing in "arousing movements."
Batubara said that the council, which has no legal power to revoke licenses but is often consulted by the parliament to discuss media-related issues, will try to persuade lawmakers not to include the two articles.
"Lawmakers cannot seem to make up their mind on how to categorize movies, publications and even our 'dangdut' shows, which do not show full-frontal nudity but reveal women posing and acting in semi-erotic fashion," he said.
The hugely popular dangdut features traditional Indonesian music with strong Indian and Arabic influences.
Batubara charged that many lawmakers have no real understanding and knowledge of what is pornography.
"They just want to issue a law but they do not want to give a damn about its impact on our socially and culturally complex society."
He said the state body was still arguing with MPs over an "acceptable Indonesian media standard of what is deemed to be morally accepted and what is not."
The Indonesians have a lot of nerve complaining, since it's their country which gave us Laura "Black Emanuelle" Gemser.
Nudity is the least of Indonesia's worries.
"It will be disastrous for Indonesia," he told AFP.
No, islam is disasterous for Indonesia. Besides, Indonesia has one of the highest population explosions on the planet. That ain't happenin' because of Playboy.
These reactions from the heart of child sex and child slavery?
I'm waiting for the "stopped clock" folks (claiming 'stopped clock' for Islamic fundaMENTALism for the millionth time).
I believe in freedom of speech, but Irfan Awwas is absolutely correct. Playboy magazine had exactly that effect on the United States.
I think they are within their rights protesting Playboy. They should boycott the magazine and all who are affiliated with it in Indonesia as boycott is the most pure form of free speech.
I understand. In a culture that mutilates their women's genitals to keep them from having pleasure, kills female family members to keep the family 'honor', buggers little boys and kills members of other religions, there is simply no place for semi-revealing photos of beautiful nude women. /s
I suggest the point is that islam's attempt to remove temptation from life creates repression in society. If islam instead taught the concept of overcoming temptation, it would encourage its adherents to assume responsibility for their actions and to develop the strength of character needed to overcome temptation.
Islam's dysfunctional system of blaming the temptation for evil is ultimately responsible for the concept of honor killings of rape victims and many other vile customs.
Yes; it would just terrible if more defiled young women had to be murdered because they were raped by moral men who clearly had no choice. < /sarcasm >
Brings to mind recent comments by Salman Rushdie:
The real problem is our women are very hairy and we do not wish to see them in the light of day.
Big Deal! I think the television evangelists, in this country, are still ranting and raving about Playboy. Perhaps, the television evangelists want to hoard all the copies of Playboy for themselves.
Exactly. Well said!
LOL lojack your camel. God thats hilarious. :)
I doubt Indonesian nudes are high on anyone's "see" list....
The irony of this, to me, is that Muslims by the boatload (who can do so) travel to non-Muslim countries where they freely engage in drinking like fish, hiring call girls and smuggling liquor and porn mags back into their oppressive Muslim countries.
Once at home, with all of their appetites quenched, revert to their pios, holier-than-thou, smug, arrogant attitudes and point the fickle finger of fate at the west. And, their fellow travelers, the American MSM can't provide enough cover for them.
pios = pious
Sixty cents? Now that's a cheap wank if I ever heard of one ;-)
Now that's a nice set of sunglasses she's got there.
Nor do we stone our women who get raped or gun our sisters down in the street for marrying the man of their choice. Nor do we own slaves and have sex with them and say 'Allah says it's okay, have fun.'
"Totally different," fer sure.
The only culture they have can be seen in a Petri dish under a microscope, still crawling around in the 'slime.'
No wonder they hate life. They can't escape their self-imposed chains and they know it. Why else would they want to convert the world? It's because misery loves company, of course. And their misery won't be complete until everyone is miserable. It's like communism.
And it's no wonder its easy for them to recruit suicide bombers. There is always a sediment drifting to the surface of the Lake of Misery, waiting to take a short cut to be 'put out of their misery.'
'They shoot horses, don't they?', is a fitting analogy to a cult destined to boogie til they drop and puke.
American Christians Furious Over Playboy - of course that was 40 some years ago.
I have a ratheriteresting book. Eros in Pompeii. One of the photos is a statue of Pan having sex with goat.
He has the goat rolled on it's back. Enough said.
You might check it out, if you can find a copy.
They also want to ban all my favorite authors: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul,....
Everything that I said in Post #9 is also absolutely true. Playboy magazine had the effect of furthering the destruction of the morality of the United States. It did not do so alone, but its contribution was important.
The standards of morality of the American public before the publication of Playboy were far higher than they were after its publication.
Of course, a theocracy that approves of slavery, torture, intolerance, et al. can hardly claim that its standards of morality are high, no matter how sexually prudish it may be.
Can't argue with that!
Beheadings of hostages, honor killings, female mutilation, etc are much better fits....