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Russians must hurry up, to deliver those air defence systems on time - before American or Israeli air-raids start (sarcasm)
1 posted on 02/09/2006 3:02:44 PM PST by lizol
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Ping


2 posted on 02/09/2006 3:04:31 PM PST by lizol
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See this is what I mean. They are no justification for this behavior other than making the US job harder. Doesnt matter, a massive cruise missle strike will saturate their defenses and the system will be destroyed.


3 posted on 02/09/2006 3:07:57 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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.......supply it with Tor-M1 short-range missiles.....

I wonder if they're as accurate as those Russian "scuds" were back in the days of Desert Storm.........

4 posted on 02/09/2006 3:08:05 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Posting from CHINA now, but sure you HATE communism.

A hypocrite as always.


7 posted on 02/09/2006 3:10:11 PM PST by x5452
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More junk from their rummage sale!


8 posted on 02/09/2006 3:10:36 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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Russia better not ship in boats, otherwise I have some weird feeling that the cargo may either be stolen or the ship scuttled.


9 posted on 02/09/2006 3:10:39 PM PST by benjibrowder ("America is always more secure when Freedom is on the march"-George Bush, Jan.31, 2006)
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As usual, it's most instructive to watch what the Russians do, not what they say.

They pay lip service to "diplomatic solutions," but at heart they love the dictators and terrorists.

It really feels like they are less angered by Chechens murdering their children than the fact that they aren't killing Americans instead.


16 posted on 02/09/2006 3:15:11 PM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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Russia is most definitely NOT our friend. At least their government. Putin is putting his country closer and closer to the old days of the Soviet Guard and we do nothing but talk and act like Russia is our friend. Is their anything we export to them that would hurt them significantly, cuz there should seriously be an embargo, immediately.


17 posted on 02/09/2006 3:16:00 PM PST by benjibrowder ("America is always more secure when Freedom is on the march"-George Bush, Jan.31, 2006)
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Those systems will make no difference at all. These are short range missiles. We can drop JDAMs on Iran from 30K feet from 20 miles away from the targets. These weapons would only be barely effective against cruise missiles launch for low altitude attacks against Iran's command and control network.
21 posted on 02/09/2006 3:19:42 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Russia sells anti-missile systems to Iran (per agreement with Al Gore)

FReerepublic Article

AFP via Babelfish translation | December 2, 2005


Tor M1 9M330 Air Defense System

The TOR-M1 surface-to-air missile system is a mobile, integrated air defense system, designed for operation at medium-, low- and very low –altitudes, against fixed/rotary wing aircraft, UAVs, guided missiles and precision weapon. The system is capable of operating in an intensive aerial jamming environment. The system is comprised of a number of missile Transporter Launcher Vehicle (TLV). A Russian air defense Tor battalion consists of 3 - 5 companies, each equipped with four TLVs. Each TLV is equipped with 8 ready to launch missiles, associating radars, fire control systems and a battery command post. The combat vehicle can operate autonomously, firing from stationary positions or on the move. The each fire unit can engage and launch missiles against two separate targets.

25 posted on 02/09/2006 3:27:07 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (The Death Penalty isn't for making examples it's for making bad people DEAD!)
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Are you picking on Putin again??? Just kidding.


27 posted on 02/09/2006 3:35:33 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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"There is no reason not to fulfill"

Then allow me to help. Visualize Chechen nuclear weapons.

28 posted on 02/09/2006 3:35:34 PM PST by JasonC
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34 posted on 02/09/2006 4:29:31 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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The amount of fantasy scenarios and underestimating that goes on here is disturbing. Like it or not, our politicians are simply not going to authorize a nuking of Iran.

The TOR-M1 is defense against Israel. It can cause problems against the F-16I's which is exactly why their defense minister has required them to be ready to go by March, before Iran takes delivery of the mobile system.

Cruise missles are a possibility for us (or allies) however, which is why Iran is hot after Russia's S-300V (and variants), the premier anti-missle unit capable of shooting down cruise missles and ballistic missles in some variants, much better than the Patriot. We've apparently tried to buy it from Russia over the years. Now Iran is either negotiating for them, or may already have some.

So if we're going to strike with some non-nuke surgical strikes, it has to be fairly soon, because once they get these systems operational, it's gonna be alot more difficult





39 posted on 02/09/2006 10:16:46 PM PST by rjp2005
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Russians must hurry up, to deliver those air defence systems on time - before American or Israeli air-raids start (sarcasm)==

I very doubt that iranians will be good trained to use those systems. SO IMHO the most important that Iran payed in advance:)).


41 posted on 02/10/2006 12:08:27 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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....But, but, they are only defensive weapons.


42 posted on 02/10/2006 12:11:28 AM PST by Pro-Bush (The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams)
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Wheres the Russian Wives Club?


44 posted on 02/11/2006 10:34:23 AM PST by spanalot
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