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Is Georgia's Immigration Bill a Step Forward or Back?
Time ^ | Apr. 19, 2006 | GREG FULTON

Posted on 04/22/2006 5:27:14 PM PDT by neverdem

While Washington continues to debate the hot-button issue, states are starting to take the matter of undocumented immigrants into their own hands.

While the Senate prepares to return to the thorny issue of immigration reform next week, states are fast becoming a major battleground over the divisive issue. Earlier this week, just as Arizona's Democratic Governor Janet Napolitano vetoed a bill that would have increased criminal penalties and arrest powers over illegal immigrants, Georgia's governor, Republican Sonny Perdue, signed into law one of the nation's toughest. It includes provisions requiring residents who are seeking state social welfare benefits to prove their legal status, as well as mandating that the police check the legal status of everyone they arrest and alert federal authorities to any violations.

The Georgia bill was considered so draconian, in fact, that it quickly sparked a diplomatic war of words. On Tuesday, Mexico's President Vincente Fox declared that Georgia's law included "acts of discrimination" and "half measures insufficient to resolve the complex phenomenon of immigration between Mexico and the United States." The reaction in Georgia to Fox's comments was typical of the heightened rhetoric that has fueled the Act since it was introduced at the beginning of the year. "I would suggest the government of Mexico stop concerning themselves with what we do in Georgia and instead worry about their own corrupt government," replied state Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock).

Georgia's bill may be particularly tough, but it's only one of close to 370 immigrant-related bills proposed in 42 states across the U.S. this year. These include the Ohio Unity English Act, which would require all state and local government documents to be in English only, a Kansas bill that would dramatically reduce the amount of taxpayer money spent on social services for illegal immigrants, and a Maine proposal to require proof of citizenship in order to get a driver's license. Not all, however, are restrictive; a bill in Wyoming would increase educational opportunities for illegal immigrants. The reason for all this legislative activity isn't all that complicated. Says Ann Morse, program director for the National Conference of State Legislatures, "It's the confluence of the sizable numbers of unathorized immigrants, the effects of 911 and the perception that we can't control the borders — and of course the frustration that the federal government isn't doing anything."

In the middle of an election year, it's also not altogether surprising that Georgia's GOP governor signed the Security and Immigration Compliance Act. Even though the state continues to trend more Republican, Perdue faces a very real challenge this fall from Democratic Secretary of State Cathy Cox, and the law commanded broad public support in a state with an estimated 500,000 to 800,000 undocumented immigrants.

Still, as tough as the Georgia bill is, it did ultimately include some notable exceptions. Residents will not have to prove their status to receive emergency medical care, prenatal care and immunizations of children, though cynics say that was done solely in order to withstand court challenges. The Act also targets big business, forcing employers to prove employees are legal and providing for fines if found otherwise.

But that may not be enough for Tisha Tallmann, Southeast regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund. She says her organization is still considering a legal challenge to the Act, in part because immigrants, she says, contribute some $200 million to the annual tax base, and should not be denied public services that they help fund. "Instead of waiting for Congress," says Tallmann, "Georgia has decided to take matters into its own hands, signing into law a punitive bill that does nothing to solve this complex issue." Unless Washington can finally tackle that issue, more states will follow Georgia's lead in coming up with their own solutions, however flawed some may think they are.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; US: Georgia; US: Kansas; US: Maine; US: Ohio; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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Someone needs to take to court the discounted in-state tuition rates for illegal alien state residents versus the full tuition charged to students whose out of state residence cause them to be charged even though they are U.S. citizens. That's reverse discrimation of another sort.
1 posted on 04/22/2006 5:27:16 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

"battleground over the divisive issue"

Divisive how?


2 posted on 04/22/2006 5:29:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: neverdem

""Perdue faces a very real challenge this fall from Democratic Secretary of State Cathy Cox""


Time reporting what they wish was the news, not what actually is...Sonny's approval rating is well above 50% and Cathy Cox hasnt even won the DEM primary yet.


3 posted on 04/22/2006 5:30:08 PM PDT by georgia2006
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To: neverdem
No one will do it because the leftists have convinced so many people that any such action would be racist. Plus, the SCOTUS already said affirmative action was still needed so this would probably be included in that type of decision. You know, damn the constitution, full speed ahead.
4 posted on 04/22/2006 5:31:15 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: BenLurkin

Since When is Vincente Foxe running the welfare departments of the USA? Just when did he start paying the bills?


5 posted on 04/22/2006 5:35:47 PM PDT by tessalu (t)
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To: neverdem

The country needs a bill like it passed, and if they don't than other states need to follow suit.

This is a crisis situation that needs getting tough!

Just the socialists, liberals, Fox and the illegal criminals think it's draconian, it isn't tough enough for the situation at hand. 10-20 million invading this country needs tough legislation for our security.

Secure our borders and stop this invasion Senators.



6 posted on 04/22/2006 5:39:12 PM PDT by stopem (If we need a "guest worker" we'll call........if the phone doesn't ring it's me!)
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To: neverdem
But that may not be enough for Tisha Tallmann, Southeast regional counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund. She says her organization is still considering a legal challenge to the Act, in part because immigrants, she says, contribute some $200 million to the annual tax base, and should not be denied public services that they help fund.

Oh please. Not this garbage again. Illegal immigrants consume more tax dollars than they produce.

7 posted on 04/22/2006 5:40:13 PM PDT by jess35
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To: tessalu

Correct. We beat Mexico once -- we can do it again.


8 posted on 04/22/2006 5:41:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: neverdem
She says her organization is still considering a legal challenge to the Act, in part because immigrants, she says, contribute some $200 million to the annual tax base, and should not be denied public services that they help fund. "Instead of waiting for Congress," says Tallmann,

Moron. The amount illegals take out at least doubles that..

9 posted on 04/22/2006 5:41:30 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mckinney in 2008!)
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To: georgia2006

Yes, Sonny's up because of this bill. Cox still has to beat Mark Taylor (a big fat old time liberal). Cox would be more or a challenge to Sonny, but she might not win.


10 posted on 04/22/2006 5:52:15 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I suspect Cathy Cox will do well in ATL and suburbs. I saw an SUV driven by a soccer mom with a GW Bush sticker on one side and Cathy Cox sticker on the other.


11 posted on 04/22/2006 5:53:34 PM PDT by georgia2006
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Mark Taylor is about as smart as a bag full of wet mice.

I heard him speak the other day. Either his staff is abysmal and didn't prepare him for the meeting, or else he is so dumb that all the staff in the world can't get him prepared.

I was unimpressed, to put it mildly. Who is this guy, anyway?

12 posted on 04/22/2006 5:57:02 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: neverdem

TYFTP

WTF cares what Vincente Fox says; since when was he elected to office in the USA.


13 posted on 04/22/2006 6:00:13 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: BenLurkin

Well lets see. You have your solid law supporting Citizens on one side and confused denigrators of the law Citizens and illegal aliens on the other.


14 posted on 04/22/2006 6:06:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: neverdem

Go Georgia!

Georgia elected a Republican Governor, Senate & Legislature who addressed illegal aliens!

State Senator Chip Rogers effectively provided the leadership for this legislation!

Vincente Fox can yell all he wants. He is not the Governor of Georgia.


15 posted on 04/22/2006 6:19:42 PM PDT by petkus
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To: DoughtyOne
I spend time on Flickr.com and people have been posting protest pictures, especially the signs. It's like a watered-down version of DU on each of those threads. I've tried to inject logic and get mobbed down by people immediately, or just smothered by saccharine support for illegals.

"We took the indian's land, therefore we have no right to be here either...blah,blah,blah."

Idiots.

16 posted on 04/22/2006 6:20:33 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: stopem
There is always the 1776 solution: A mass meeting of Patriots, who then demand redress of grievances. If it goes unanswered, then Declare Independence from Mexico.

If they refuse to allow us self rule, then full scale revolt, and set up our our country north of the Rio Grande. Write a Constitution guaranteeing basic liberties, and limiting government; maybe a constitutional democratic republic?

Demand that any citizen who retains allegiance to Mexico, and does not have kegal permission to be here, then be repatriated to south of the new border? Name it, say...The United States of America?

17 posted on 04/22/2006 6:22:00 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: stopem

I agree that other states need to take action but our RINO governor of Alabama will not take any action unless it is to raise taxes.


18 posted on 04/22/2006 6:24:00 PM PDT by southland (Nietzsche said God was dead- he lied!)
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To: neverdem

Assuming that 800,000 illegal aliens paid into the $200,000,000 tax base, it amounts to $250 each. What a deal! I wish that were all the taxes I had to pay.


19 posted on 04/22/2006 6:25:44 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: BenLurkin
"Divisive how?"

Seperates Quislings & criminal invaders from Americans.

20 posted on 04/22/2006 6:26:20 PM PDT by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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