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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: LucyT

Who made a death threat?


1,181 posted on 05/17/2006 12:02:56 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Vicomte13

So, apparently you are not working to help for a GOP victory.

Just how will the democrat congress help any of our conservative agenda items?

Just how much damage was done by the prior democratic imposed rulings - such as the destruction to the intelligence agencies, "the created wall" between the agencies, the destruction of the military.

Just how much easier will it be to get conservative judges nominated and input into the Supreme Court with no majority in congress? We can't get anything through now - how is a democratic congress going to input good judges?

If I weigh the two options - democratic congress or holding with the GOP majority - I see no comparison.

Your method means we are always having to play catch up and never get used to being the ones in power. Your way allows for much more committee leadership positions that trail off into future GOP terms.

Your way allows for increased power base building among the already intrenched democrats. Your way allows for more democrat infiltration into every phase of government.

Just how is that effective for conservatism?

Seems that is going backwards to me. And, it seems that means you are working against us - not for us.


1,182 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:08 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: Lakeshark

You've accused me, several times now, of seeking out liberal spew to form my opinions. Nothing could be farthest from the truth. When I presented an example of a conservative whose opinions conservatives value, you degrade her as well.

We don't agree on this issue. Calling me names or label people with whom you disagree is done to marginalize and silence their valid opinions.


1,183 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:16 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: onyx
We seem to be getting a lot of our way today......
1,184 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:18 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: prairiebreeze
BJC's post is here:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1633739/posts?page=1028#1028
1,185 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:40 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: BJClinton

MY EYES!!! MY EYES!!!


1,186 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:48 PM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: prairiebreeze

do you also understand that it is correct?


1,187 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:52 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (** Tagline Removed By Admin Moderator **)
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To: najida

Maybe so, but what of it? XA effectively wiped out what may have been a good posting history with those comments in one fell swoop.

So if he's no troll, how does that now help him, his cause, FR or this discussion?

Answer, of course: it doesn't.


1,188 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:59 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: nicmarlo

"There's a difference between compromise and selling out America and Americans."

I strongly agree. Certain principles have no margin for compromise.. Protecting America and it's citizens is one of them.


1,189 posted on 05/17/2006 12:03:59 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: najida

Good. Just try to keep from miffing yourself from now on though. ROFL


1,190 posted on 05/17/2006 12:04:25 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Pukin Dog
Sorry to rain on your parade but when you single out a Republican Senator whom you consider to be beyond redemption then you either give everyone a free shot or declare yourself king.

The Republicans can't afford to lose any seat regardless of your litmus test.

The sycophancy on this thread makes me want to hurl.

1,191 posted on 05/17/2006 12:04:42 PM PDT by harrowup (If you voted for President Bush, be loyal; if not, bite a rock.)
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To: Pukin Dog
We seem to be getting a lot of our way today......

:)


1,192 posted on 05/17/2006 12:04:51 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: harrowup
Its not a parade. Its a festival!
1,193 posted on 05/17/2006 12:05:16 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: pissant

That means avoiding you I guess.....
Or giving you heck...

One or both.


1,194 posted on 05/17/2006 12:05:25 PM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: harrowup
The sycophancy on this thread makes me want to hurl.

I'm with you there.

1,195 posted on 05/17/2006 12:05:35 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Pukin Dog
Good rant.

I heard once that Rove's goal is not to turn every Democrat into a Republican, but to completely do away with the idea of a Democrat. Everyone will be 'conservative' under one big umbrella, just different "degrees" of conservative.

Which would explain why some things the president has done will anger the hard right, and most things will anger the hard left.

Not sure how I feel about this goal. Of course who wouldn't want to completely do away with the concept of a Democrat, but do we really want to spread conservatism so thin that it encompasses everything to the left of the middle?

1,196 posted on 05/17/2006 12:05:35 PM PDT by RushCrush (Sheriff Joe for President!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you have a problem with the judges GWB is appointing?

I had a problem with the one he withdrew. Apparently so did many other Americans.

The ones he actually had confirmed haven't been in long enough to know whether they will be better or worse than the ones we already have.

Would you have a problem with those a President Gore or Kerry or Hillary, et al, would appoint?

Probably. But I don't advocate electing them. Never have, never will. AND never advocated that anyone stay home or any other advice on voting.

I merely state the obvious, Republicans cannot be relied upon to deliver or even fight the good fight all the time.

Some people sell fear, I'm not buying.

1,197 posted on 05/17/2006 12:06:03 PM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: gondramB
Toby, I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you but I can't take your posts seriously with that profile...

Glad you like it, however i am serious as aheart attack in my convictions.

1,198 posted on 05/17/2006 12:06:04 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: najida

You can't avoid me. I'm sacred. And a cow.


1,199 posted on 05/17/2006 12:06:15 PM PDT by pissant
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To: lentulusgracchus

Oh, and it's Bush's fault ;)


1,200 posted on 05/17/2006 12:06:16 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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