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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Admin Moderator

Do you want honest answers to those questions or should we just treat them as rhetorical?


1,221 posted on 05/17/2006 12:10:10 PM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: dirtboy
Well then you haven't been paying close attention to the comments by some posting here.

Seems there are some who would advocate mines, boxcars, and more.

1,222 posted on 05/17/2006 12:10:23 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Smogger

Thanks for your opinion.

goodbye


1,223 posted on 05/17/2006 12:10:37 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I've decided to call it "The Highway of troller death" after that massacre in Iraq during GW1


ROFLMAO!!!!!


1,224 posted on 05/17/2006 12:10:40 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: RushCrush
The way that Rove is destroying the Democrats, is to peel away the reasonable from the wacky. Right now, the wacky have taken over that party, leaving reasonable Dems with nowhere to go but here. I dont see why we cant welcome their refugees, re-educate them, and send them back out to do our bidding?
1,225 posted on 05/17/2006 12:10:50 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: trisham

As am I. That was pretty heated.


1,226 posted on 05/17/2006 12:11:13 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Admin Moderator
the female mods are throwing themselves at the male posters!

I threw myself at a Matt Dillon poster when I was 15 once. Just ended up with a bruised lip from the brick wall behind it.

1,227 posted on 05/17/2006 12:11:25 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: prairiebreeze
Agreed, but that is part of the reason I think we all need to try and avoid the inflammatory rhetoric on these issues. Otherwise good posters are being dragged into flame wars that don't help them, this cause or FR.

Land mines may be a stupid idea (I think they are). That doesn't mean that the poster suggesting them is stupid. MTCW is that we need to keep that distinction in mind, because we are eating some of our own here, which is sad and unnecessary.
1,228 posted on 05/17/2006 12:11:26 PM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you have a problem with the judges GWB is appointing?

GWB is not running in 2006 or 2008.

1,229 posted on 05/17/2006 12:11:29 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: OldFriend
Seems there are some who would advocate mines, boxcars, and more.

And those are a very distinct minority. Did you like it when the Clintonistas associated the OKC bombing with the entire right wing in this country? There will always be zealots. But there are good historical reasons to oppose Bush's guest worker program that are held by practical people who do not want to throw the illegals into boxcars.

1,230 posted on 05/17/2006 12:12:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Lead Moderator
Same complaint, no evidence offered. You're boring me.

Dashing Dasher's final posts. Peacebaby's final posts.

Compare that to Coming soon: the mp3 breast implant or Jolie is lesbian favourite. A simple search will turn up many similar threads.

Which brings us back to my original post "Some people get banned for what may be a violation of posting guidelines while others get away with it."
1,231 posted on 05/17/2006 12:12:31 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: RushCrush

Bump.


1,232 posted on 05/17/2006 12:12:53 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: onyx
No, no, the Mods are just making it all up.

/s

1,233 posted on 05/17/2006 12:12:58 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Pukin Dog; ovrtaxt
If you hurl too, would you be PUKIN?

Or Barf?

1,234 posted on 05/17/2006 12:13:08 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Illegal aliens, Islamic terrorists, Democrats...........are we sure the plagues haven't started?)
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To: Jim Robinson
I can disagree with Bush and the Republcans over this issue or any other and still not want to side with Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, et al.

But the problem is, on this issue, Bush IS sideing with those people. What do you do then?

1,235 posted on 05/17/2006 12:13:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: Lead Moderator
Why settle for Bush when we could have total perfection with president Tancredo!

Wasn't the idea behind this thread to promote Conservative Republicans?

1,236 posted on 05/17/2006 12:13:31 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Lead Moderator

None of this would have ever happened if you people had only listened to your base and built the darned DU (fire)Wall.


1,237 posted on 05/17/2006 12:14:00 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: LucyT

Ok, I checked it out. Thanks. Sounded more like silly bluster than anything.


1,238 posted on 05/17/2006 12:14:10 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Toby06
You are the ostrich if you don't think terrorists are already here living among us. Waiting and planning.

And we natter on and on about mexicans!

And we allow the MSM and assorted morons to natter on and on about phone call surveillance, and koran abuse.

We have taken our eye off the ball and are asking for a big time bit of trouble.

Just my opinion.

1,239 posted on 05/17/2006 12:14:14 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: RushCrush
To follow up with an example, just look at how the wacky-left is treating Joe Lieberman!

Republicans in his state will be supporting him just to keep the more wacky Dem from winning the primary. A few years back, Lieberman was their VP choice, now he's not good enough for them. I would trade ten Chaffee's for one Joe Lieberman.

1,240 posted on 05/17/2006 12:15:07 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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