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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Peach

Gracias Peach and Onyx, Jan


1,281 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:51 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Rokke
That's interesting because the folks in California would have you believe they are the only ones suffering.

We are just used to the suffering. No one cared when we we're sufferning alone.

1,282 posted on 05/17/2006 12:24:27 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Rokke

"That's interesting because the folks in California would have you believe they are the only ones suffering. Funny thing is, I am currently in California, and I haven't heard anyone talking about it."

Becuase California has already surrendered.


1,283 posted on 05/17/2006 12:24:51 PM PDT by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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To: Conservababe
Do you find it distasteful that we have the right to protect our borders to the extent of utilizing armed border guards and land mines? I don't.

I find LANDMINES totally unconscionable and that you are advocating their use on our Southern border, I find you disgusting.

1,284 posted on 05/17/2006 12:25:39 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Conservababe

We have the right to do that, but I dont think that is the way to do it. Like I said earlier, it is not our policy to kill civilians. Even if they are trying to enter the country illegally. Turning the Southern Border into a killing field is not the most desireable path.

Now getting an Israeli style fence up with the proper amount of personell manning the border makes more sense to me.


1,285 posted on 05/17/2006 12:25:43 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Toby06

You've probably already been told this but many freepers type a BTTT so that they can come back later to their personal pings to continue reading the thread from that specific place (their BTTT).


1,286 posted on 05/17/2006 12:25:52 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: onyx
Reid even changed his "no" to "aye" at the very last second.

A few Senators have a bad habit of doing that

1,287 posted on 05/17/2006 12:25:59 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Pukin Dog
Dog,
You said what had to be said. Thanks for putting things into perspective. You wrote much of what I have been thinking lately. I have been worried about ways I could contribute (not financially as I live in NJ and work in NY and I'm getting taxed to death by Corzine and Pataki) to help with the cause of returning Republicans to office in November. I worry about the scary possibility of a "Speaker Pelosi" -- YUCK!!! If we put that thought out there, it should be enough to scare most moderates and conservatives to keep Speaker Hastert where he is.
1,288 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:04 PM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
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To: tarheelswamprat
brutal logic behind his proposed solution

Brutal is right - I don't think working for the enemy does anything but give the enemy more time in the power seat to wreck their agenda on those of us fighting all their prior havoc and trying to prevent more of it.

Defeats all of the work each of us has done to move the agenda forward when some start putting on the brakes to go backward thinking they will make some personal point.

What happens if 10% of us picked an issue and decided to work for the enemy to "show" the GOP, then another 10% picked another issue to "show" the GOP. What is the result?

The result - my friend - is liberalism winning without having to convert any individual. I don't believe in helping the enemy.

1,289 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:15 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: pbrown
Vitters failed.

66-33 against.

1,290 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:18 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Jim Robinson
1) All I can to keep the America hating evil abortionist Democrat traitors out of power.

OK, next question - if Bush's stance on a guest worker program is seriously hurting the re-election chances of GOP House members running for re-election, what do you do then?

1,291 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:28 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: ohioWfan

Aack. Sorry about that.


1,292 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:59 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Conservababe

Land mines? While that would be consistent with the policies of the old USSR it will never be acceptable in an America which is concerned about freedom. Last I saw there is also little love shown by Americans for shooting down people indiscriminately. Even Mexicans don't provoke such a response except among those who have apparently lost their minds in the wave of Insanity which has been unleashed upon FR.


1,293 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:02 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Smogger
Imagine throwing our troops to the democrats.

UNFORGIVEABLE

1,294 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:07 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: NinoFan
OK. I'm not innocent. I'm a rotten human being.

Accuse to your little heart's delight. I'm guilty of everything you say. :)

1,295 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:09 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: dirtboy

This is Jim's house. Show respect. I'm serious. And nobody's a bigger critic of the president than I am.


1,296 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:13 PM PDT by Luke21 (It's looney. It's crazy. It's insane. It's liberalism.)
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To: onyx
Reid even changed his "no" to "aye" at the very last second.

A slight case of "voting against it before voting for it"?
1,297 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:17 PM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Jim Robinson

"..If they were really only "true" conservatives innocently expressing their deep-seated hatred for the president.."

Deep seated hatred even if it's 'innocently expressed'.. is not conservative by nature.. No, I was speaking of people that honestly disagree with GWB.. not rabid haters.

Thanks for your reply.


1,298 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:18 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: Iscool

I have seen the name-calling on both sides of the issue. The ones that bother me the most are the ones that call someone a RINO or Bush-bot if they disagree with the poster or try to defend the President.


1,299 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:32 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Friends don't let friends ride with a Kennedy.)
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To: Protagoras

GWB is doing fine in the judicial department. Find something else to complain about. Oh, wait. Nevermind.


1,300 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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