Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
Well I guess my post 1303 might be for you then.
LOLOL!
Only trouble, not all of us have that ability - we are the learners.
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Thanks for your kind words.
I understand your valid point.
However, Virtually all of us have the capacity to do some of the following:
1. When standing in a WalMart line . . . if someone ahead or behind us makes a stupid liberal remark, we can graciously state a list of facts to refute it because we've been read up on FR.
2. If we see a headline on a Supermarket tabloid while waiting in line, we might comment to our partner in an informative way, loud enough for bystanders to overhear us. Often people will eavesdrop and accept things as true eavesdropping that they'd reject if said to them directly.
3. We can find a host of ways to be overheard in public in gracious, wise, thought provoking ways which will eat way at the liberal insanity some people walk around in a fog in.
4. We can write letters to the editor.
5. We can give handouts from FR to the liberals and moderates and conservatives in our personal work, social, shopping, church, club, sports networks--especially TODAY'S TOONS. Those toons are more persuasive than you think. The truth in them is hard to argue against--even for a lot of liberals.
6. We can call-in to talk radio and TV shows and insure that the conservative viewpoint is put graciously, wisely with great punch and potency.
7. Better, we can team up with a handful of other FREEPERS or other conservatives and relentlessly dial into talk radio to insure that the main points needed to be made on a topic get finished regardless of how quickly any one is cut off.
8. Those who are good speakers and well known in their communities can volunteer to speak to garden clubs etc. about the implications of liberal idiocy laws on their club's priorities, values and goals. For example, most garden clubs would be incensed about the imminent domain treason the Supreme Court has turned loose on the land.
9. We can spend at least a little time on other forums related to our hobbies and other interests. For me, that's UFO etc. sorts of forums. Many of them are flaming liberal forums. No need to worry about influencing the brain dead. However, many on such forums are unthinking liberals but are fairminded enough to think if given food for thought--especially THOUGHT BOMBS which niggle away at them and eventually explode with clarity and truth that jangles and jars them loose from their blind mindless liberalism.
More importantly, many such forums have maybe 200-1,000 lurkers. At least maybe 20-75% of those lurkers are likely to be liberals--many of them with some fairmindedness that makes them vulnerable to the truth well presented.
10. If some folks are timid about presenting verbal or written stuff of their own creation--there's plenty of material on FR that folks would be happy for you to use. And, folks, imagine, if you saw your freedoms taken away because you were too timid to speak up within your social network--and you realized only too late that your timidity, shyness, cowardice was a key cause--how would you feel then.
WE MUST STAND UP AND BE COUNTED WHILE WE CAN STILL STAND at all.
I have been as supportive of the mods as anyone here. I do not badmouth JimRob on other forums.
But if he and the mods are going to engage in debate, then I will debate them. And I think it is bad for mods to take sides on an issue when they are posting as moderators.
The new 'Republicans vote on Wednesday' game
By Dustin Hawkins
Apr 12, 2006
Weve all seen the e-mail sent out days before an election: Democrats vote on Tuesday, Republicans vote on Wednesday. Dont forget to vote! Wink, wink. Or vice versa. Republicans can be just as juvenile. Generally speaking, such friendly reminders are sent as a joke, which then may or may not actually trick a few people. Probably those who are tricked are better off not voting anyway, but that is another point altogether. (In case you havent voted recently, everyone votes on Tuesday.)
But there seems to be a new Republicans vote on Wednesday taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.
The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: Ive been voting Republican for 30 years, but Ive finally had it and Im not voting this year. Or my favorite: Im a Reagan Republican, but Im fed up and voting for John Kerry. (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone left of Michael Dukakis.
The intentions are clear: the caller hopes to make it appear as though there is already a large uprising of conservatives who are rebelling against GOP candidates, and thus, wishes to incite other Republicans to pick up the same attitude and pass it along, leading to the Democrat becoming more competitive. The successes of such a strategy on voting habits are unclear, especially given that the conservative radio host often refutes the callers talking points.
But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to spread the word (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.
The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have had it with Republicans. They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.
The blogs and e-mails are convincing in their wording and could incite the sort of reaction that occurred following the Harriet Miers nomination to the Supreme Court. Of course, any liberal could read Free Republic and find out whats irritating conservatives this week, grab a handful of phrases, and toss it on their Im a conservative but voting for a Democratic because of (insert issue here) blog. After tossing in a few posts about the evils of Hillary Clinton and abortion, the blog is now being run by a bona-fide conservative. A few e-mails and link connections later, the message of conservatives voting against Republicans is spread.
Now, I wont dispute that there are probably some conservatives that might actually sit out the election or vote for a third party candidate, but probably not enough to actually swing an election. (Unless of course a conservative grassroots effort gets well-underway to change that.) What I do dispute is the idea that such an idea is already widespread. Last week alone I received more than ten e-mails or links to recently created blogs that pretty much say the same thing, and it is only April.
One conservative e-mailer and blogger, later found to be a fraud, started by saying that over a dozen of his conservative friends were going to campaign against their Republican candidate (one in a tight race) because of his stance on immigration, and another dozen of his friends had already stated they would vote against him. The blog had been up less than a month, adding to my suspicions.
I have more than a handful of conservative friends and surprisingly or not so surprisingly not one has taken such a position, despite our shared frustrations over many Republicans in the House and Senate. In general, my acquaintances take the position that it is better to vote for someone who is good on 8 out of 10 issues than bad on 9 out of ten.
Curious about the e-mail, I began a back-and-forth emailing with the grassroots conservative, pretended to agree with him, and two days later it became painfully obvious that he was far from a grassroots conservative. When I called the blogger out on his bogus scheme, he responded only with: Win some, lose some. The election games have begun.
Dustin Hawkins is a Townhall.com political reporter
-PJ
More like you're a pain.....
in the....
but honestly Pissy....
If the majority of the citizens of the respective states are going to continue to vote based solely on party and ignore General Washington's sage advice, then perhaps the best that can be hoped for is gridlock. Isn't one of the end goals of classical liberalism (one basis for conservatism) to limit government?
Georgie has got to go!!!
I guess you think illegals only cross the Mexico California border. Ever been to El Paso, Texas? California is one of the few western states that repeatedly votes to compound its own problems. If you are really suffering alone, it is because everyone else is too busy trying to clean the problem up.
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Have you lost it?
Boy, I hope that is true. We can't afford to have delinquent voters with all we have facing us and the prospects of a Democratic reign.
Yeah, that was a fun day wasn't it. I remember being embarrassed for my country when I saw that photo.
I tried to reply to the poster. Luckily I saw his silly post.
That's is build a big double wall with pit bull patrols between the walls.
You aren't the only one having a good laugh over that one. :)
I think we're spending waaaaaaaaay too much energy on infighting and demoralizing instead of finding solutions. Tony Blankley's article in the Washington Times was a superb discussion of what can or should be done in the way of compromise, or not (I stink at posting links, sorry). This should not be an issue about ego (who wins, who loses, or who gets "disrespected" by whom), but rather about educating people to make everybody want to work towards a safe, secure border. That goal is not helped by the people who advocate shooting the people coming across (and no, that's not what YOU said, BTW, I'm just quoting from a banned poster).
As I have said before, I see the President's plan as a start, and starting with something is better than sitting and doing nothing, IMO.
That wouldn't happen.
Campaing Finance Reform???
They seem to be effective. They keep eating their owners. :)
>>Their rapsheets stretched from New York to California. Took me a while to download. Offenses included, not just porn talk, but continual stalking, ganging up on other posters, insulting other posters, name calling. Repeated warnings fell on deaf ears.
Nice try, though! ;)<<
Members have rap sheets? Is that so you can make faster decsions?
In fact, I was belittled because of my gender just today (AFTER I whupped the macho guy in a battle of wits. :).
Their posts are almost never pulled unless they're obscene..........which they occasionally are.
I'm always impressed with the manliness of freepers whose only line of defense is to say, "Oh yeah.....you WOMAN you!" ;)
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