Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
Let me throw this out here for the sake of comment.
1. Secure the border. I think we all agree on that.
2. Make the consequences of being a business with an illegal on your payroll not worth the risk (i.e. fines, penalties, loss of eligibility for government contracts, ect.)
Most are comming here illegally to work. Make it hard/risky for a business to hire them in the first place.
Is this part of your permanent record?
Like is the time I skipped recess in 6th grade still on there?
I'm always ready to come to your aid, love. (Yeah, like you need my help!)
No, I am saying border security first. That is far different from doing both for the reasons I stated.
A bill that allows up to 150 million immigrants isn't parsely.
Roberts and Alito: Still in the oven as far as I'm concerned. Time will tell, and I hope you are correct.
HEH!
You make the point I was trying to make well! Follow back on what I said if you should so choose. Oh yeah, and it was freeper COOP who doesn't think an open border could possibly let in al Quaeda.
We all know that it is time to drop a MOAB on Mexico City. That is the UltraFreepers answer to everything isn't it?
Ok. but since you were asking for evidence I felt compelled to ask for some too.
I agree with those two points. But I think you have to have border security in place first before any discussion of changes to domestic immigration regulation - Reagan's amnesty showed that.
Yeah, it sucks when Federal Judges over throw the will of the people. And those federal judges were all democrats. So what has California done in response? Voted for the Democrat Presidential candidate in every election since. You want more of the same? Keep voting for those Democrats. Meanwhile, in states like Texas, almost 20 years ago I had my truck stolen by a Mexican crime syndicate. Texans started voting to solve their problems. San Antonio used to be the car theft capital of the country. You know who gets that honor now? Modesto, California. Texans solved their problems. Californians just blame everyone else.
I cut my own lawn.
You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now.
And he's wrong.
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
I've never had a steak at a Ruth's Chris restaurant; I'm not an elite.
>Why settle for Bush when we could haveWasn't the idea behind this thread to promote Conservative Republicans?
>total perfection with president Tancredo!
Tancredo? Conservative? You must be kidding. :)
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"A complete lack of perspective."
A statement of objective political reality. Don't get angry at the meteorologist for telling you that there's a hurricane coming because you don't want to have to ride out a hurricane.
"Al Qaeda is licking it chops at the prospects of a Democrat controlled government, with it's reliance on platitudes and UN police actions."
When the Democrats win in November, which they will unless BorderBots are appeased, there will still be a Republican controlling the US government. Democrats in Congress will not be able to override his veto, and there will still be a Republican Secretary of Defense. If this were the 2008 election, it would be a different story. But it's not.
"They will wait patiently until a Democrat is at the helm, and they will launch the most devestating series of strikes the world has ever seen."
Perhaps, but there will still be a Republican at the helm in 2007. Regardless of who wins Congress, it will be by a close margin, and President Bush isn't going anywhere.
2008 is the moment that a Democrat could win the election, if the Republicans don't learn anything from the defeat of 2006. Republicans WILL learn something from the defeat of 2006. I would prefer that they learn it BEFORE the defeat, so that we don't have to HAVE the defeat, but if they won't learn it before November, they will certainly learn it then. Then there are two years to change course and ensure that a Democrat doesn't get back the helm of state.
"They can do this largely because their state sponsors will know that they will not be retailiated against with a Democrat in office."
Depends on who the Democrat is. Joe Lieberman would retaliate. But I am being argumentative. Among the likely field of electable Democrats, you're probably right.
"The War on Terror should be the overriding issue for patriots."
BorderBots would say that securing the Mexican Border is fundamental to the War on Terror, because that's where all the terrorists who are plotting their next attack in America even now are sneaking in. And they're right about that too.
I would say to you that since the War on Terror is so imperative, it is imperative not to lose Congress. Since it is imperative not to lose Congress, President Bush and the Senate Republicans have simply got to give in to the BorderBot demand of a physical fence on the border. It's the easiest thing to give them, to start doing, and to let them have a visible victory that's more than symbolic. An actual wall will stop the flow and give the Border Conservatives what they crave, long term.
Anyway, if we can't seem to budge on the fence now, we're going to be forced to give it next year by loss in November.
So why be stubborn about it now?
We're going to have to do it anyway, so let's give them their victory on the fence and then not have to worry about losing Congress and the War on Terror.
Wasn't personal, I just needed the bounty.
I like it.
;^)
FOTFLOL! I see you got "the memo."
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