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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: trubluolyguy

Exactly.


1,981 posted on 05/17/2006 3:52:09 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Vicomte13
A stupid question....

Isn't there any law on the books that allow the drilling of ANWR for reasons of national security?

Who would have the cajones to oppose that?

1,982 posted on 05/17/2006 3:52:45 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Pukin Dog
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda.

HEAR!! HEAR!!

1,983 posted on 05/17/2006 3:52:51 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: maica

Was it? I thought they were just discussing that, but voting on it later. The another Dem was talking about becoming a co-sponsor.


1,984 posted on 05/17/2006 3:53:25 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Pukin Dog

It is true!!!!!!!!1


1,985 posted on 05/17/2006 3:53:56 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: LucyT
Because if you are, I will make your life a living hell here.

This comment isn't a death threat.

No one calls the President a liar to my face and lives to tell about it!

I suspect the poster said something he really didn't mean to say. That is the way it looks to me. Some time back, on another thread a poster did not accurately read a reply and took the reply as an insult to her grandmother. I think that poster may still be in a snit over something that was not really said.

1,986 posted on 05/17/2006 3:54:04 PM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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To: onyx

Pardon me.

I don't paticularly consider it my duty to defend Senate Republicans. Other than Sessions. You can consider that your job.


1,987 posted on 05/17/2006 3:54:11 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Self Admitted BorderBot: Be Heard: Send a Brick: http://www.send-a-brick.com/brick.htm)
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To: trubluolyguy

Maybe it's due to my growing up during the great depression, but $150.00, just doesn't sound like chump change to me.


1,988 posted on 05/17/2006 3:54:28 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Stop whining! Everyone has their own bear to cross.)
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To: CWOJackson

"That is a common misconception by the single issue crowds...they mistake loud of large. I've known many infants that were loud all out of proportion to their size...they too made demands. Most of them grew up."

Tax hawks were not infants in 1992.
They were as large as they were loud, and they put a bullet in the head of the tax-raising GOP.
Never happened again.

Pro-lifers were not infants with Miers in 2005.
They were as large as they were loud, and Bush & Co. knew it and put up Alito.

BorderBots are probably as large as they are loud, but why take the risk? To "teach them a lesson"? What would that be? That a wide-open border is good? If the resistance is simply based on a refusal to cave into political pressure, when the consequences of loss are so dire, I'd say it's a bad gamble.

Anyway, we'll see in the coming weeks the extent to which the President and Senate or the House of Representatives gauge the real strength of the BorderBots.

I hold out hope for a full fence THIS year, so that we can win THIS year, because I think the BorderBots are as numerous as they are loud.

If I'm right and we follow my strategy of caving and giving them their fence, what have we lost?

But even if you're right and we don't give them their fence, and eke out a win and hold onto Congress, what have we gained? Essentialy open borders and backdoor amnesty. Why is that a good thing? Just to "Show 'em?", Warrant?


1,989 posted on 05/17/2006 3:54:46 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Soul Seeker

Sessions's amendment was passed today!


1,990 posted on 05/17/2006 3:55:13 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: trubluolyguy

150.00 means alot too some of us.


1,991 posted on 05/17/2006 3:55:44 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Marine Inspector
I just checked and I think you and I are talking about two different things all together.

Canada is providing us with airlines manifests of Canadian flights coming into the U.S. We have specifically requested that they share with us passenger manifests for flights coming into Canada from other countries because of their lack of surveillance of those two sites.

As for assuming that they are under observation, I seriously doubt that. Canada and it's laws are unique in those areas...and decidedly have not been pro-U.S. either.

1,992 posted on 05/17/2006 3:55:59 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Maybe it's due to my growing up during the great depression, but $150.00, just doesn't sound like chump change to me.



Oh. Ok.


1,993 posted on 05/17/2006 3:56:16 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: mariabush

150.00 means alot too some of us.



And to me, by next year, it will mean MAYBE a tank and a half of gas.


1,994 posted on 05/17/2006 3:57:03 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (You want my vote? I want border security and no criminals rewarded for criminal behavior)
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To: Pukin Dog

I see, "The VFA-143 Pukin' Dogs is a US Navy strike fighter squadron flying the F/A-18E Super Hornet."

Much better mental image. Easy to remember, that's for sure. About 2,000 posts so far, not bad for a days work. Well done Pukin' Dog.


1,995 posted on 05/17/2006 3:57:45 PM PDT by stevestras
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To: mariabush
No its not. 9 out of 10 Naval Aviators would fly for beer, and the last one would have flown because the suit makes you look taller.
1,996 posted on 05/17/2006 3:57:47 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Great post, really needed to be said. From now on, I will do my best to adhere to a code of honor and civility, and apologize for any rudeness that I've shown to any other FReeper over this issue. Heated emotions are no excuse.

"Thou shall not speak ill of another Republican."--Ronald W. Reagan


1,997 posted on 05/17/2006 3:57:48 PM PDT by Deo et Patria
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To: trubluolyguy
Woo-Hoo! A whole tank of gas by this time next year.

I laughed at the absurdity of gas being so expensive.

I used to bum $1.00 for gas from my pop to go joy riding on. Ahhh, the good old days.

1,998 posted on 05/17/2006 3:58:23 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: EdReform
Now, I need to start reading through this thread....

Get yourself a good stiff drink. There is something here to "pee" off just about everyone.

1,999 posted on 05/17/2006 3:58:41 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Vicomte13
As I said, fortunately for most small but very loud children, as they mature they usually tend to understand and accept the fact that the world doesn't revolve around them and start acting more adult.

Then again, some children never grow up and keep on throwing their tantrums and making their demands.

2,000 posted on 05/17/2006 3:58:53 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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