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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Pukin Dog

2,001 posted on 05/17/2006 3:58:58 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Toby06

2000?


2,002 posted on 05/17/2006 3:59:03 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Warren_Piece

"Except for a few (Spiff, Vicomte13), most of them come across as pitchforkers."

I'm not a BorderBot.

I articulate their case for them because they are going to put a torpedo under our keel in November unless they get something, and what will placate them is a sea-to-sea Fence.

I don't want to lose Congress and have to make a Fence a priority in order to get it back.

I want to appease the BorderBots on THIS side of a defeat, and a Fence will do that.

I haven't seen a rational and articulate expression of what they are really afraid of, angry about and want, so I have supplied it because I want to hold onto Congress, and they hold the key to that. "He who can destroy a thing, also controls a thing" was a philosophic point in Dune.
And it's true.

I am trying to give a voice to the BorderBots and present a clear channel to avoid a disaster, in the hope that the thousands of people who read FreeRepublic will pick up precisely that concept: GIVE THEM THEIR SEA TO SEA FENCE, AND WE DEFUSE THE BOMB.

I want to defuse the bomb.
That's all.


2,003 posted on 05/17/2006 3:59:11 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Prokopton
You want more Kennedys and Souters?

Man, you gotta love this logic.

Do you mean it was a mistake to vote for Reagan?

Or since we are talking about Dubya how about we stick to the subject and say I hope for another Roberts or Alito.

2,004 posted on 05/17/2006 3:59:15 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: stevestras
The Dogs did our best work in the Tomcat. The Hornet is a bug.
2,005 posted on 05/17/2006 3:59:20 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
If you want to go from St Louis to New Orleans, driving north is a damned stupid thing to do - and could lead someone to think that maybe New Orleans isn't really your destination.

Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

2,006 posted on 05/17/2006 3:59:26 PM PDT by DManA
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To: pbrown

I think I lost a $50 bet, seeing as you are still here. I think having the mods called on banning true conservative/non bushbots will cool that off for a bit.


2,007 posted on 05/17/2006 4:00:11 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Miss Marple

Could you Freepmail me these attacks as well? I'm curious.


2,008 posted on 05/17/2006 4:00:56 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Pukin Dog
I know! My husband is ex=Navy flier as well. One of our boys is an active duty officer. All of our military are hero's.
2,009 posted on 05/17/2006 4:01:33 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: CWOJackson
We have specifically requested that they share with us passenger manifests for flights coming into Canada from other countries because of their lack of surveillance of those two sites.

I'm sure Mexico is not providing us the manifests for flights coming into their country either.

Can't say I blame either.

Just because Canada is not watching those sites, does not mean they are not being watched.

2,010 posted on 05/17/2006 4:02:02 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: tgslTakoma
The conservative base

What you are talking about is me. Who I am concerned about is those non-conservative Republicans who are willing to see God-hating, Constitution-ignoring socialists take power if they don't get there way.

2,011 posted on 05/17/2006 4:02:02 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Protagoras
What in the present is it that you don't think I am able to look at?

I'll see your Souter and Kennedy and raise you Roberts and Alito.

2,012 posted on 05/17/2006 4:02:33 PM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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To: Toby06
Or they might be taking a siesta? Please don't assume the mods can be intimidated by a little bit of pushback. Free Republic is not a democracy.
2,013 posted on 05/17/2006 4:02:52 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: investigateworld

"If the Republicans lose one of the Houses of Congress, not that I believe that will happen, there goes the funding for the Iraq/WOT program.
Do you think Dubya is willing to risk that?"

I think he IS risking it, but I think that the full magnitude of the BorderBot movement and the cost of its defection is not being properly registered by the decision takers.

Had Bush 41 known that the tax-hawks would never forgive him, no matter what, after he raised taxes, he would have stalwartly refused to have done so. But he underestimated the strength and depth of passion on taxes of the tax hawks.

Bush and Co. ALMOST made that mistake with Miers, but they got it in the end and pulled back from the brink.

I think they haven't gotten it yet about the Border, and are making the same mistake Bush's daddy made. Fortunately, this time it's easier to fix - with that Border Fence sea to sea - and they may get it yet.

Unfortunately, I think that there's a real desire to self-deceive that the President pulled it off with his speech. He didn't. The speech was the sum of all fears for those conservatives most passionate about the Border.

It made things worse.
Not unrecoverably so: the reconciliation committee in Congress could still give a sea-to-sea fence.


2,014 posted on 05/17/2006 4:03:58 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva!)
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To: Soul Seeker
The republicans only have a majority on paper. Just look at the list of rinos in the senate. Replace those, and we'll have a real majority. People are deluding themselves to think we have a 'majority'. Just look at the voting records. The battle starts at your state level. We have the government we elected. Don't like it, work to elect conservatives. Complaining about the senate now is like saying you have to shovel 24 inches of snow because you didn't buy a snowblower before the blizzard, and they're out of stock now.
2,015 posted on 05/17/2006 4:04:29 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: trubluolyguy

Tank and a half? We can only hope.

What are you driving anyway trubluolyguy, an eighteen wheeler?

LOL! Have you ever seen how spell check reacts to your name?


2,016 posted on 05/17/2006 4:05:00 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Stop whining! Everyone has their own bear to cross.)
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To: Vicomte13

LOL!


2,017 posted on 05/17/2006 4:05:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: trubluolyguy

It's better than that stupid $100 dollar gas rebate proposal, that would end up costing more than $100 per person to process.


2,018 posted on 05/17/2006 4:06:48 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Toby06
I'm sorry you lost money. I'm a conservative Border-Bot. What can I say.....

:-)

2,019 posted on 05/17/2006 4:06:51 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Marine Inspector
"I'm sure Mexico is not providing us the manifests for flights coming into their country either."

Mexico has nothing that can compare with the Islamic centers, long and well established Islamic centers, in North Vancouver, BC and Windsor, ON. In fact, one Canadian MP just spoke of this outrage himself...finally figuring out that they could become targets themselves eventually.

"Just because Canada is not watching those sites, does not mean they are not being watched."

If would be far more effective if our good friends to the north cooperated in that endeavor so we (probably) didn't have to violate their sovereignty.

2,020 posted on 05/17/2006 4:08:35 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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