"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

saminfl wrote (answering meyer):
I notice that you have been here since 1999. Wasn't the illegal alien problem occurring then? did you post about it?

I am not meyer. But some of us HAVE been posting about the illegal alien problem for many years, even before FreeRepublic existed.

I daresay I was one of the first Americans to promulgate such a concept as a "border barrier".

Reproduced below is the text, in toto, of a posting I put on the "Issues" forum of America Online long ago. (of course that forum no longer exists, but some of us keep _archives_!)
Archive follows:
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Orchidea -
RE your posting:
" I doubt whether Mr. Potato Famine's idea of a "Great Wall" would work given the sucess rate of the Asian one. So, watch out, the Visigoths are at the gates!!!"

Fences make for good neighbors.

And they *do* work, provided they are long enough, tall enough, strong enough, solid enough.

Should we go so far as to rely on a physical "barrier" to protect our southern border?

There are two possible avenues of thought to consider...

The first is that we should do nothing to halt the onslaught of multicultural values pouring into our society. Nor should we act to halt the inflow of "multicultural folk", particularly through our notoriously porous southern border, but also into our ports and airports. The relentless pressure this wave of non-assimilating immigrants, legal and illegal, places against our traditional economic/value systems can be resisted only so long. Eventually, like osmosis, it may permeate and corrupt entire regions of this country to the point where they no longer resemble the traditional "America" of our [past] consciousness.

The alternative scenario demands that we take concrete and definitive steps to protect our borders and our culture.

We must realize that there are certain, fortunate nations on this planet that have the advantage of "natural barriers" in their defense against outside pressures. Some that come to mind immediately are Japan, New Zealand, Great Britain, Australia. Because of the fact that all of these nations are are islands, they can protect themselves, *IF* they muster the national will to do so. Great Britain could not have successfully resisted the Nazis in 1940 without this "God given" geographical circumstance. Billions may yet starve in Africa, and the farmlands of India may go dry and become deserts, but so long as a country like Australia can protect its environment and social structure, it has *at least a chance* at long-term survival.

So, too, could North America (The United States and Canada) rely on such a barrier. We are large enough as a continent to become virtually self-sustaining. We are naturally immune from cultural pressures "from the [Arctic] north" - no one's coming in from that direction. By the west and east we are insulated by oceans. Our only "pressure point" is to our south - the Mexican border.

But the southern border is more than just with Mexico - in a broader sense, it is with the entire third world, pressing against our culture, in the same manner in which water bears against a dam. This is why our struggle to restrain it there becomes so important.

It is not only "Mexicans" (and other South and Central Americans) per se that infiltrate us from the south - it is the culture that they bring with them, much of which is inherently alien to our "traditional" beliefs and mores. Curse them if you like, but it is precisely such European "traditional values" that so coherently united and "communalized" our national heritage, up until the 1960's or so - the exact values which today are under such persistent attack from the "multiculturals".

Some months ago in this area, I proposed the concept of a physical, impenetrable wall between the U.S. and Mexico. I again propose it. Indeed, the U.S. Border Patrol, at certain points along the U.S -Mexican border already erects fences, but these serve as mere buckets against the flood when viewed in the larger scale. However, the fact that on the local level such fences DO serve their purpose suggests that we need a more substantive "levee" to protect our *entire* southern front.

Call this prospective "Wall of America" racist, call it elitist, call it whatever you like. The fact remains that with such an artificial barrier in place working in concert with our natural barriers to the north, east and west, and with extremely tight controls on who "gets in" via air and sea, we could effectively defend ourselves (our culture AND our environment) from the inevitable decline and collapse due to outside pressures that, at the present, we seem reluctant to resist.

It may be indelicate to say so, but I will assert that:
- All "cultures" are NOT of equal value; thus
- Some cultures are inherently superior to others;
- The history of mankind is of competing cultures conflicting with and overcoming one another (and not always did the superior culture triumph);
- That said, I consider OUR traditional culture (based upon Euro-Centric values) to be superior to others, and thus, worth preserving;
- Such preservation becomes IMPOSSIBLE unless we actively defend it against the corrupting influences of competing, inferior cultures.

If you live beside a river, and if that river is threatening to overflow your property, what do you do? Do you accept the inevitability of the pending inundation? Or do you at least attempt to build a levee to restrain such overflow? Must you simply stand by and let the waves wash over you, because you have no "right" to "resist" them? Is it unmoral, unethical, unreasonable to at least TRY to protect what you have and what you stand for?

Few will contest the individual's inherent right of self-preservation - do we also have a right to the self-preservation of our nation, our values, our culture, our future?

I believe that what we have built here, and what the future can hold for us, is WORTH protecting, by WHATEVER means possible.
Do you?

- John
(posted to AOL Nov 16, 1995)
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I've been a republican since Nixon....have always voted straight republican in every election wether state, local or federal.

Yes I am enraged over our policy of kowtowing to Mexico and terrible border security and Immigration realities that are an embarrasment.

However, I have come to the conclusion these last several years that there is a darker issue afoot.

The Leftist/Communists/NWO aren't dummys, they have a well planned and so far well implimented agenda that is taking the Constitution and America down. (Think NEA, ACLU, The Media et el)

For a while, I thought that Bush wasn't a part of that "Conspiracy"....I let my idealism and patriotism get the best of me especially after 9-11...I wanted to believe that Bush was an honorable and rightous man, above the corruption and beyond the conspiracy.

Too many things that he has done and said of late have convinced me otherwise now....and I am angry not only with the situation but with myself for allowing myself to be suckered in.....and angry that things are worse than they appear on the surface....and that my children and grandchildren are going to see America dismantled....taken to a second or third world position.

And then I am angry with myself for my lack of Faith.....not consistantly believing that God is indeed IN CONTROL and that He is going to use this evil for His Own Eternal Purposes and Prophetic Fulfillment....I forget that all too often.

The Patriot Act, the National ID card, etc....have all been or will be snuck in on the tail of public outcry...."They" did and are doing a great job of getting us closer to 1984 (Orwell) and we conservatives for the most part remain oblivious, naive and unorganized.

But the bad guys are smarter than we think...they have infiltrated even the hallowed halls of conservatism so that there is no chance of organizing or fighting the wave as it washes over us for they are everywhere and they know the who, where and why of true American Patriots....they are just accumulating data for that time when they can take us out....and we will be powerless and probably by that time, weaponless too.

I think their game plan now is to eradicate the "Middle Class"....bring wages down to the point where "we" are scrounging to survive too exhausted to voice our malcontent.
(Think NAFTA)

I've seen articles about the NWO (Council of Foreign Relations) describing a North America somewhat like the EU....to a great extent Borderless....so that America gets watered down to such an extent as to vanish. I think there is even a plan to begin to impliment this in 2010!

I'll even come further out from underneath my rock and say that the arabs are being used, set up and exploited and yes radical islam is being fanned like a fire....but alas they are not the real enemy...just an accessory to bring whatever plans the real bad guys have, to fruition. (Think NeoCons)

Also I believe that the current adversarial battle between republicans and democrats...it's all a show, smoke and mirrors to keep us from seeing the real "man" behind the curtain.

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