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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: pollyannaish
Heh heh....

Not only that, but I will also demand that you never make comments about the good looks of male politicians......

*ducking*

:-)

2,241 posted on 05/17/2006 7:18:22 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Sam Spade
Thoughtful points on the Hispanic vote in Texas but I think Hispanics vary. In aggregate, I think they are strongly Democratic. But in very conservative states, I think they tend toward conservative positions because of pro-life concerns. Texas may also be atypical because Bush did a lot of campaigning there even as governor so they might have a stronger relationship with Bush than they would in other states like California.

I tried googling up some info but haven't turned up anything very convincing yet. Hard to find paydirt links.
2,242 posted on 05/17/2006 7:18:25 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: nopardons

I know you are well above average informed.

Thanks for your kind words.

Time will tell which construction on reality fits "objective" reality best.

LUB


2,243 posted on 05/17/2006 7:18:31 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: ohioWfan
*Sigh*

This is a tough issue, yes?

2,244 posted on 05/17/2006 7:19:51 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree and I too think that we will be seeing calls for raising the rate of pay for the illegals as soon as this immigration stuff calms down.

My pet peeve is that the cheap labor helps only the companies hiring these people. The illegals are not able to live and feed the large families with the cheap labor and the burden falls on the church members who contribute to benevolent programs that are overrun with hispanics. And, the welfare agencies all through our system.

There is nothing cheap about the illegals - it is just WHO is paying for it.


2,245 posted on 05/17/2006 7:20:39 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: nopardons

THANKS.

I know.

I wonder, often, what it would take for you to change your opinion about that. What set of predictions about that would have to transpire before you'd believe such were really going on?

I really don't think there's any room any more for using the word "theory" about it. Too much has been proven by too many witnesses and even insiders in too many such groups, imho.


2,246 posted on 05/17/2006 7:20:57 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Admin Moderator

Gee whiz, my bad if I am mistaken.


2,247 posted on 05/17/2006 7:21:39 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: ClancyJ; Halgr
Clancy, you and I have known each other since you joined FR. We've been on so many threads together, that I have no idea how many 1,000s it is by now. I have no need to go read your old posts, now; I know what they said and I know who you are!

Maybe you are posting on an adrenaline rush. I don't know WHY you threw in the neocon in parenthesize and obviously, neither do you. But you know as well as I do, that "neocon" is and always has been used by some here, not only erroneously, but as a pejorative.

I never said that you "manipulated" your postings. That Halgr post, which you applauded, was indeed what set me off. That was so covered in tinfoil, it could win a tinfoil prize.

2,248 posted on 05/17/2006 7:25:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Congressman Johnson told me that he understood my message, that year. And shook hands with me.

He was a POW, and his hands are ruined. He's a real hero.

And he got a sign in the yard.

I held coffees, and passed out literature, and worked the polling places that year as well all of the others.

That was the year that we overturned the local government by less than 300 votes. After the recount.

And I still appologize to Randy for putting him on the council, and to Mayor Day.

No, I'm not naive. I'm a ground soldier. And I'll support a campaign on the ground that I won't vote for.

I will always vote for pro-life, pro-gun, and support the campaigns with blood, sweat, and tears.

When I had a pay problem after a deployment, Rep. Johnson helped me out, even though I've moved out of his district.

/johnny

2,249 posted on 05/17/2006 7:25:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Quix
We can and probably should take the "tinfoil" stuff private. :-)

Kind words, for a kind, always thoughtful friend. :-)

2,250 posted on 05/17/2006 7:28:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Oops,sorry, Mr. Ialonedefineconsertvative. Nothing further. Out.


2,251 posted on 05/17/2006 7:28:17 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Warren_Piece
Desperado, why don't you come to your senses, come down from your fenses, open the gate.

I'll come down from my fences if you'll build me a wall.
2,252 posted on 05/17/2006 7:28:33 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Carolinamom
Nothing will make me quit FreeRepublic.com or vote Democrat. Nothing and No One.
That doesn't mean that I approve or accept blindly everything said or done here or in D.C., but the alternatives are worse. Much worse.

Thank you for putting that into words; every tenth post should repeat it. It certainly is the way I feel.

PD seems to have considered that reality about most of us here as "unimportant", or as somehow aiding the enemy. "My country right or wrong" will never be an excuse for me to embrace or support a path to its destruction, no matter how well intentioned, pragmatic, "compassionate" or politically expedient it appears.

Honesty up front is essential. We can leave the dissimulation to the State Department.

2,253 posted on 05/17/2006 7:29:32 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Quix

LOL...I'll put up my "insiders" against your "insiders" and let's see, in private, which one of us is thusly enlightened; shall we? :-)


2,254 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; Left2Right

I know you have no real reason to listen to me...but I can guarantee he is not a troll!!

His home page is not designed to be a criticism. He is definitely conservative, and a good friend of mine


2,255 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:33 PM PDT by trussell (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Left2Right

My hopmepage in no way is intended to criticize FR. It's a joke. Jim Robinson knows who I am. We've had some chats in the past.


2,256 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:53 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: nopardons

I still believe there is more going on in our society than just normal politics and it scares me. It would go against my personal beliefs to find Bush a part of it as he is the one man I trust to run our country.

Glad you remember me - so many posters they all just sometimes run together.


2,257 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:55 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: trussell

Thanks my friend, I appreciate the kind words, but please don't put yourself in harms way on my account.


2,258 posted on 05/17/2006 7:32:08 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Good grief.............you really ARE all over the place. LOL
2,259 posted on 05/17/2006 7:32:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Quix

LOL!


2,260 posted on 05/17/2006 7:32:21 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (A government that will not enforce the laws of the land, is a government standing on quicksand.)
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