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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Toby06
...the post volume on FR has decreased by a third in 2 months.

Is that your own estimate, or did you read it somewhere? It seems a little high to me. I would have only guessed about a quarter.

2,281 posted on 05/17/2006 7:52:12 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: texas_mrs

Right here in CA - we had 3 very strong conservatives running for the Cunningham seat - and they were all rejected. Instead we are stuck with another RINO - Bilbray.

He used to be my congressperson - and while he was responsive to my questions, his vote for McCain's trashing of the first amendment turned me off in supporting him.


2,282 posted on 05/17/2006 7:55:02 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: onyx
Well!

That personal attack in lieu of enchanging ideas sure goes a long way towards both leading by example, and validating PD's original criticism at the story state of intellectual exchange on FR these days...

2,283 posted on 05/17/2006 7:55:12 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Tribune7

My point was that they were not voted out for day laborer issues.


2,284 posted on 05/17/2006 7:55:27 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: George W. Bush

Thank you very much. The tally runs approximately 2,130 "LOL's" to 1 "Sick".


2,285 posted on 05/17/2006 7:56:17 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Toby06
The claim is preposterous and then some!

I've probably seen more people banned than you ever shall, since I suspect that you aren't going to last long here and I've been here a very long time and am NOT about to leave tonight.

And yes, I do know why a lot of people were banned. It's a no brainer...all you have to do is see what their last post was. And believe me, it most assuredly was NOT because they were "CONSERVATIVES"!

You attempted to take me on, with your smarmy, snide run-on name calling. Did you think I wouldn't notice? And now you're attempting to weasel out of it all. Pity that........

I don't care HOW big your shoulders are, n00b, that's not what we fight with here; we use our intellect.

Enjoy the cigar.......................... :-)

2,286 posted on 05/17/2006 7:56:29 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: BykrBayb

ROFL! I won't quibble,and we'll go with your number.


2,287 posted on 05/17/2006 7:57:25 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Toby06

You would love my SUPER TARDS photo....but I can't post it here as folks get all high & mighty & act offended.


2,288 posted on 05/17/2006 7:57:44 PM PDT by Feiny (Now go bang your heads on your desks until something useful comes out!)
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To: Toby06

It's the rest of your page which is disgusting, not funny, not clever, and in extremely bad taste. You should rethink and redo it.


2,289 posted on 05/17/2006 7:58:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I have a couple fine macanudo's, care for one?


2,290 posted on 05/17/2006 8:00:12 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"I have discovered it's really time to do something myself. It may mean getting involved at the grass roots to throw the bums who are too RINOy out. It may mean encouraging people to get out and vote. It may mean doing one's homework."

I got a call tonight about the upcoming Michigan Republican primary. They wanted to know if I would be supporting Joe Schwartz ( big time RINO), and if I voted for him in the last election.

It must have been a Schwartz poll because they didn't want to here the full rant about my thoughts on him.

The time to sort them out is in the primaries, thats what I try to do.
2,291 posted on 05/17/2006 8:00:46 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

No doubts here. I think of it as the Hillary Wedgie (Yuck).

Nice essay, Dog!

Whoa, 2,289 posts. Am I ever late to this thread!

.

2,292 posted on 05/17/2006 8:01:08 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Oh I understand logic; but, you don't. I know, full well, who Aristotle was and probably many others, whom you've never even heard of; let alone read any of their works.

All of that may make sense to you; however, YOU are the only one for whom it makes any sense at all. :-)

2,293 posted on 05/17/2006 8:01:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Toby06
If posting volume has decreased it's because of people like you who abuse the privilege of being here.

Stop arguing already. You haven't convinced a soul and you are irking a lot of last nerves.

2,294 posted on 05/17/2006 8:02:07 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: nopardons
My, you certainly are being haughty this evening.

And, no, I am not "trying to take you on".

I just think you should be a little nicer. Toby is NOT a troll.

Conservatives do not agree on every issue, you know.

2,295 posted on 05/17/2006 8:02:20 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

BRAVA! :-)


2,296 posted on 05/17/2006 8:02:45 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MissAmericanPie
The people at the top of the Republican Party, and Demonrat Party are globalists. The only argument between them is which way to jump, into the E.U. or to create a united Western Hemisphere.

Meanwhile the average joe is so scared spitless to face reality that he shuts his eyes tight and hides under the bed hoping if he just keeps from facing the monster it will go away. It ain't going away. Not for the Demonrat base or the Republican base.


And history offers little optimism. Reagan's amnesty was loathed. The big bailout of the peso by American taxpayers, strongly opposed by people in both parties. NAFTA, also opposed in both parties. The open-borders trucking stuff, also opposed (and stopped). And now, they want us to just trust them again.

I'll trust them when they have a manned and fenced border.

Mark Levin has been good on this stuff, especially on the Senate Republicans who voted against enforcement first and the recent elections where Republicans who were soft on illegals were defeated in primaries: "You Weasel Republicans who invite this, you are going to be punished in the primaries, that's where we conservatives will have effective control over things. You think you do now because of the Senate rules where a majority isn't good enough, where you can hold up legislation or threat filibusters or join with all your liberal friends on the other side of the aisle. Well, guess what? In Republican primaries, it doesn't work that way."
2,297 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:21 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: CyberAnt
we had 3 very strong conservatives running for the Cunningham seat - and they were all rejected

Cunningham has a machine that works well. To upset that... You have a lot of work to do. You need local ground support. Pick ONE candidate that is not a RINO.

We took out an incumbent during the primary. But it cost a lot of money. I donated the max, and had a bunch of friends that did.

We worked the door-to-door media to death. Put out signs. Paid for lawyers when our signs were taken down by the local pols.

CAMPAIGN. It is a word with a meaning. It used to mean blood and treasure. These days, it mostly means treasure.

And if you want to make a change, you have to pay for it. Every bit is expensive, and frustrating.

Learn to love it. Work hard to change it.

/johnny

2,298 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: nopardons

Just because one person has a beef with it and I have had HUNDREDS of compliments, I think I just may listen to you. Yeah, I will listen to you and rethink it. Check it in a couple days. I'll fix it up some.

Oh yeah, I should update my flag, too, as I have left Zimbabwe for warmer climes.


2,299 posted on 05/17/2006 8:03:33 PM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
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To: Seaplaner

Hillary Wedgie

[clear screen! clear screen! clear screen! - not a mental picture I wanted to see.....]


2,300 posted on 05/17/2006 8:04:05 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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