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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: BJClinton

As Gump would say, "it" happens.


761 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Protagoras
Buh, bye, troll. Hope you enjoy what you get from Majority Leader Reid, Speaker Pelosi and their committee chairs.
762 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:35 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: hershey

Have you noticed that since Bush is taking action on immigration, the media is suddenly "against him taking action"?

Proves that whatever he does, the media is anti. They also want to use immigration in the upcoming elections and want no action - so there will be no immigration reform period.


763 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:47 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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To: gondramB; Peach

Sorry about that reply Peach, I pasted the wrong sentence.


764 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:55 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: Rebelbase

You simply made a statement you admit you have no proof of. Great going there.


765 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:03 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

That post you pulled was relatively tame though...


766 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:06 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Vicomte13
*applause*

It appears my work here is done. You have my respect.
767 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:19 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Mo1

Hagel is too busy chasing camera time for the senate floor.


768 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:19 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: pbrown
I shouldn't have to "Get over it". You're supposed to be impartial. How can you moderate a board fairly when you have clearly supported one side over the other?

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Lighten up. He/she is a moderator, not a judge. We all have opinions here, I presume.

769 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pbrown

Who told you your Free Republic experience would be impartial?


770 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:43 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I have major guilt that I helped elect Bill Clinton.

If you voted for the person you thought best represented your position then you have nothing to feel guilty about. If you feel your vision was clouded then it is a different story.

I will never, EVER again work against the GOP if it means that another stinkin Democrat might run this country.

Please keep in mind that alot of our older generation cast their votes based on what they think the Democrats stand for. I mean to say, that, what the democrats used to stand for is not anything close to what they push as an agenda today and the older folks really do not understand what it is they are actually voting for. If they knew what today's Democrats stood for I highly doubt they cast their votes as they do.

Decades ago, many folks made the same swearing you just did towards the Democrats for their dedication to the working man and against those dirty rich republicans that only seek to steal the profits from labor. Just please be careful that you do not fall into the same trap that they did because that trap almost elected John Kerry.
771 posted on 05/17/2006 10:44:57 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Pukin Dog

I have major guilt that I helped elect Bill Clinton.

I will never, EVER again work against the GOP if it means that another stinkin Democrat might run this country.

I hope that is sufficient explanation for my philosophy.
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DITTO.

Though voting in Taipei, I knew which way my State (Wash) was going to go at the time anyway. That is, I knew my vote would not make any difference because of the polls showing such a wide margin.

But I had no knowledge of Perot's meeting with Billdo Klintoon and his hostility toward Bush. I just felt he was strong on the military and NOT PART OF THE DC TRAITOROUS CLIQUE. I felt Bush Sr was less than patriotic and deserved at least a good slap on the hand.

But the resulting placement of Clinton in power shredded all the above considerations.

NEVER AGAIN.


772 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:14 AM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: gondramB

No problem.


773 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:46 AM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: BJClinton

Back up your claim.


774 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:51 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Madame Dufarge

So did I. There were too many to have been just conservatives unhappy with the issue under discussion.


775 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:53 AM PDT by maica ( We have a destination in mind, and that is a freer world. -- G W Bush)
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To: Pukin Dog; Tony Snow; jveritas

I'm on board, Pukin. Always have been. Thank goodness for those of us who have the ability to disagree with the President on certain issues and still support him overall. Conservatives don't exhibit the rhetoric and foul behavior that has gone on here lately. It's unseemly liberal behavior and quite telling about a posters real motives.

And don't forget FReeper Tony Snow, now WH Press Secretary! And jveritas and all his hard work!!
FR is a wonderful place and I won't stand by the let the varmints and opinion shapers run it straight into the ground.

The President has outlined a starting place on immigration. It's more than any president since Carter or even Kennedy ever did about illegal immigration. Yet that isn't enough for those who insist on nothing less than mass internment and deportation. And do the pious ones ever criticize congress and the courts for their roles in the illiegal immigation situation over the years to the extent they criticize President Bush? HELL NO!

I'm sick to death of the whole lot of them.


776 posted on 05/17/2006 10:45:56 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: Admin Moderator

..although I don't disagree with you pulling it. I just don't agree that me typing "smooch" after you pulled it deserved a timeout.


777 posted on 05/17/2006 10:46:48 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: All
You know what I think? I think illegal aliens are illegal.

Yeah, that's what I think.
778 posted on 05/17/2006 10:46:58 AM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Perot supporters are responsible for Bill Clinton.



I agree with much of what you have said this morning (if not the manner in which you've said it) but quite frankly, H.W. Buch was responsible for Perot supporters BEING Perot supporters


779 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:35 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (If its such a great idea, lets see how well the capital and white house do with a virtual fence.)
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To: onyx

Lindsey is against the Vitter amendment


780 posted on 05/17/2006 10:47:37 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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